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Arioch wrote:Some Soia-liron livestock do give milk, but the Loroi haven't utilized them in the same way that humans have.

Can't say much more than this at present.

Well, SOMETHING'S gotta provide milk for the kids once their warrior moms give birth and head straight(ish) back to the front lines, right? No?

CJSF

cacambo43 wrote:

Arioch wrote:Some Soia-liron livestock do give milk, but the Loroi haven't utilized them in the same way that humans have.

Can't say much more than this at present.

Well, SOMETHING'S gotta provide milk for the kids once their warrior moms give birth and head straight(ish) back to the front lines, right? No?

CJSF

Maybe there is a civilian caste for that? https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=c-_7pdF2zU4

"So, are you telling me that world is filled with eager almost-loroi males, and that (lick lips) ice cream and chocolate food?"

I can imagine Earth, in time, will become a very popular tourist destination for Loroi

raistlin34 wrote:"So, are you telling me that world is filled with eager almost-loroi males, and that (lick lips) ice cream and chocolate food?"

I can imagine Earth, in time, will become a very popular tourist destination for Loroi

One thing that people here haven't mentioned yet is the full meaning of Alexander Jardin.

The full meaning of Alexander is 'Guardian of Men' so Alexander Jardin doesn't just mean Guardian of the Garden but 'Guardian of the Male Garden'.

How will the "Stylet" in the Trade?

Tamri wrote:How will the "Stylet" in the Trade?

I don't understand.

Arioch wrote:I don't understand.

Weapons name, "Stiletto", how will sound like on the Trade language?

Quick question; do Loroi suffer from any evolutionary garbage health problems like we humans do?

Wisdom teeth, pilodinal cysts, these kind of things.

Tamri wrote:

ShadowDragon8685 wrote: No milk or cheese? No yogurt, Greek or otherwise? No ice cream?!

I feel sorry for them; on the other hand, that's something else to augment the kitten-based bargaining position.

Well, ice cream, in principle, can be done not only milk, but a whole class of products from milk for Loroi obviously unknown. On the other hand, I think that idea an eating frozen cocktail of various ingredients will seem at least a little strange for Loroi Perhaps, many of them...

they are probably all lactose intolerant

Tamri wrote:Weapons name, "Stiletto", how will sound like on the Trade language?

lago

dragoongfa wrote:Quick question; do Loroi suffer from any evolutionary garbage health problems like we humans do?

Loroi have fewer such problems than humans do.

I guess Soian lifeforms, having been artificially engineered, carry far less garbage in their genetic code.

raistlin34 wrote:I guess Soian lifeforms, having been artificially engineered, carry far less garbage in their genetic code.

I would say that it depends, the Early Loroi were most certainly prototypes since they don't have the trademarked 8 fingers in total that the other Soia Liron species have, as a prototype they were bound to have leftover glitches that would be ironed out later.

Fully streamlined products however should have almost no such problems.

Arioch wrote:

dragoongfa wrote:Quick question; do Loroi suffer from any evolutionary garbage health problems like we humans do?

Loroi have fewer such problems than humans do.

Are any of these problems similar by any chance?

I would find it somewhat funny if a Loroi and a Human both suffered from a bad case of wisdom teeth and went to the doctor at the same time.

dragoongfa wrote:Quick question; do Loroi suffer from any evolutionary garbage health problems like we humans do?

Wisdom teeth, pilodinal cysts, these kind of things.

Assuming, if Loroi created artificially on the basis of the other species (humans, lol), on the one hand, were to inherit some signs of the species-prototype, as: anthropometry, the structural features of certain organs and body parts (structure of eyes, skeleton, in general terms, the structure may also CNS), on the other hand - since they are substantially in terms of genetics "younger", they must carry their genetic minimum number of mutations, that genetic garbage. But this applies to Loroi in the first centuries of their existence. At the moment, it's been about 300k years since. In evolutionary terms it is small, but it is enough time for the formation of some of the changes, even in a stable environment. It is quite enough to scrape up a particular genetic baggage, in addition to the original genome.

Of course, all of the above makes sense, if not the creators gave Loroi a highly effective mechanism for "repair" and the correction of the genome, which will minimize the random mutations.

ShadowDragon8685 wrote:

Arioch wrote:Some Soia-liron livestock do give milk, but the Loroi haven't utilized them in the same way that humans have.

Can't say much more than this at present.

No milk or cheese? No yogurt, Greek or otherwise? No ice cream?!

Ice cream doesn't have to be milk-based: it can in fact be ice-based (e.g. Sorbet), or based on something thicker like custard or mousse, or be based on a oil-water mixture like mellorine is. The only real restriction is that to truely be an ice-cream analogue it needs to be sweet, and formed by stirring a liquid while freezing it.

Probably the Loroi had a snow-based version (I believe that both the Romans and the Aztecs had such) flavored with fruit or other juices (such as an edible & sweet tree sap).

After re-reading some parts of the comic for some "Calm Seas" related research, I noted something strange:

How come that Antimonys hair (the other, red haired Listel on Tempest's bridge) has so much longer hair than Beryl?
Antimony should be half a year younger, as you said.
Can you tell us what's the reason for that (except spoilers and Beryl looks much cuter with that hairstyle of course)?

Suederwind wrote:After re-reading some parts of the comic for some "Calm Seas" related research, I noted something strange:

How come that Antimonys hair (the other, red haired Listel on Tempest's bridge) has so much longer hair than Beryl?

while social status plays a part, personal preference does exist

Some questions on my mind, in a nice, unordered mess [will clean up when back on PC.]

Is a gigantic psionic amplifier that amps TK to the level of "theoretically useful at starship scale" possible, similar to that which farseers use? (Range notwithstanding.)

The Loroi have very powerful kinetic dampeners. Everybody has gravity aboard their ships. Are grav-drivers, along the lines of mag-drivers, possible?

Similar to the last question: can damping be used in conjuction with liquid breathing medium? I.E., for a gunship-classed vessel the size of a Highland-class shuttle, or even the size of a Corvette, just a giant pile of engines, guns, and enough inertial dampeners to bring the effective force acting on the crew below what liquid breathing would allow them to tolerate?

ShadowDragon8685 wrote:Some questions on my mind, in a nice, unordered mess [will clean up when back on PC.]

Is a gigantic psionic amplifier that amps TK to the level of "theoretically useful at starship scale" possible, similar to that which farseers use? (Range notwithstanding.)

The Loroi have very powerful kinetic dampeners. Everybody has gravity aboard their ships. Are grav-drivers, along the lines of mag-drivers, possible?

Similar to the last question: can damping be used in conjuction with liquid breathing medium? I.E., for a gunship-classed vessel the size of a Highland-class shuttle, or even the size of a Corvette, just a giant pile of engines, guns, and enough inertial dampeners to bring the effective force acting on the crew below what liquid breathing would allow them to tolerate?

My answer is, as I understand.

If "theoretically useful" means "shoot down ships of the power of thought" - it's not. Firstly, in the ship's scale, even off scale Blade power to 6,500 pounds - a trifle, compared with the weak laser. Secondly, even if the TK acts instantly on the cosmic distances, the user will have to concentrate on the purpose for his subjective perception - the size of a speck of dust. Even if we set her to the distance accurately, pre-emption and give visualization - if she even touches an enemy, it is impossible to pull luck.

It is possible, why not. Only two points:
- Firstly, this don't add efficiency to kinetics. For a normal hit a target at space distances, velocity of the projectile must be calculated to percents of light. For human guns with a maximum pulse of 200 km/s it will take to raise the rate of at least 50 times. Given that even the 200 km/s, for a single pulse with such a small accelerator abut to already theoretically impossible.
- Secondly, there is a problem of accuracy. Just bring all the ship to the target the size of a speck of dust isn't too big a problem, but get over it - there will be a huge success. Because directed the all ship in response to the maneuvers of the tdrget, is much heavier than the gun turret. Just due to the fact that the ship weighs orders of magnitude more.

If we have the acceleration compensators, we don't need liquid breathing. Pilot it will simply not care for any overload, and thus all the other compensate systems aren't needed.

Tamri wrote:My answer is, as I understand.

If "theoretically useful" means "shoot down ships of the power of thought" - it's not. Firstly, in the ship's scale, even off scale Blade power to 6,500 pounds - a trifle, compared with the weak laser. Secondly, even if the TK acts instantly on the cosmic distances, the user will have to concentrate on the purpose for his subjective perception - the size of a speck of dust. Even if we set her to the distance accurately, pre-emption and give visualization - if she even touches an enemy, it is impossible to pull luck.

This is entirely unhelpful, Tamri. It is a reiteration of information I already had at hand: specifically, that TK was useless as it currently is in ship combat.

That is why I posited the existence of a gigantic psionic TK-amplifier. Fireblade is far less potent a TK without her head-thingy, and we know that farseers who can sense at interstellar distances use gigantic farsense amplifiers. Hence, the question of whether a giant TK amplifier could exist that would amplify, say, Fireblade's TK from "tons" of force to, say, "hundreds of tons of force," or even "kilotons of force."

It is possible, why not. Only two points:
- Firstly, this don't add efficiency to kinetics. For a normal hit a target at space distances, velocity of the projectile must be calculated to percents of light. For human guns with a maximum pulse of 200 km/s it will take to raise the rate of at least 50 times. Given that even the 200 km/s, for a single pulse with such a small accelerator abut to already theoretically impossible.

- Secondly, there is a problem of accuracy. Just bring all the ship to the target the size of a speck of dust isn't too big a problem, but get over it - there will be a huge success. Because directed the all ship in response to the maneuvers of the target, is much heavier than the gun turret. Just due to the fact that the ship weighs orders of magnitude more.

Again, this is unhelpful, Tamri. You don't know why I'm asking if the technologies that allow for gravitic damping and deck gravity could be weaponized. I may also be positing, say, a hyperdrive with enough accuracy to deliver a heavy cruiser into mass driver range of an enemy, where those mass drivers will be the unquestioned cock of the walk.

If I'm asking a theoretical question, please don't answer it with "it's irrelevant, because: " and then give information which is tangential and already known to me. I know damn well why Terran ships are irrelevant in Outsider combat as it stands, but I also know that if a Umiak or Loroi vessel found itself inside mass driver range with a hostile America- class heavy cruiser, it would have its shit wrecked. So if you can upgrade from mass drivers to grav-drivers, that range, although small, will increase. It could also have applications as a grav-accelerated point-defense cannon.

Also, I can't actually tell what you said in your second point, or even what you were trying to say.

If we have the acceleration compensators, we don't need liquid breathing. Pilot it will simply not care for any overload, and thus all the other compensate systems aren't needed.

Did you literally not read what I wrote?

I asked "assuming we can compensate 20g of acceleration with compensators on a vessel of 50m size, can liquid breathing take up the remaining 40g of acceleration, thus allowing a very small ship to accelerate at 60g."