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Eat less beans, mate.

That's not what I meant

They need not worry about suffocation unless they got a major leak. Even with life support down they should have air for several days at least. Star Trek commonly make this mistake and they seem to believe that that they should suffocate within minutes of a life support shut down and thus tend to play that for drama.

Make that about a day before CO2 levels become toxic, maybe two if they all keep calm, don't move and preferably all go to sleep. They are 9 people in a volume comparable to a small regional jet, maybe smaller than that.

The shuttle probably has several spare spacesuits, if they come with rebreather systems (we already have these and they are pretty reliable, except the old Soviet designs) then it should be possible to jury rig a system to extend the oxygen supply considerably. Hell, it should be standard for the life support system of any space faring shuttle and ship to have a self contained battery backup for air recycling which should last for a few days in case of an emergency.

dragoongfa wrote:The shuttle probably has several spare spacesuits, if they come with rebreather systems (we already have these and they are pretty reliable, except the old Soviet designs) then it should be possible to jury rig a system to extend the oxygen supply considerably. Hell, it should be standard for the life support system of any space faring shuttle and ship to have a self contained battery backup for air recycling which should last for a few days in case of an emergency.

Yeah, CO2-scrubbing has been around for centuries and can be as simple as packets of CO2 absorbing material (just need sufficient surface area and airflow), and in principle even full recycling shouldn't take a huge amount of energy or equipment. If major systems are down, I'd be a lot more worried about temperature. Emergency heaters can keep them warm, but if they're too close to the system primary, they'll need working radiators and heat exchangers to keep from overheating.

That, plus Loroi have super efficient biological functions...superior to humans.. I'll bet a sleeping Loroi uses only a fraction of the atmosphere that a human does.

sunphoenix wrote:That, plus Loroi have super efficient biological functions...superior to humans.. I'll bet a sleeping Loroi uses only a fraction of the atmosphere that a human does.

I thought it to be worse...
An active Loroi only needs fractions of a sleeping Human (as they also seem to need a lot less fuel (to eat) which could be converted to CO2).


Talon, watching the CO2 levels: Accounting for the amount of people on board, we're using far too much oxygen.
Alex: for us Humans, conserving oxygen is best done while sleeping, or resting.
Beryl: Interesting, for us Loroi the Oxagen usage is more or less constant, and basically only depends on whether we're on heavy duty, or not.
Talon: Let's drug that Human to sleep, to conserve oxygen.

Mjolnir wrote:..., but if they're too close to the system primary, they'll need working radiators and heat exchangers to keep from overheating.

Well, they're at the outer reaches of a white dwarf system, so I reckon overheating from the 'star' won't be an issue.

Mjolnir wrote:

dragoongfa wrote:The shuttle probably has several spare spacesuits, if they come with rebreather systems (we already have these and they are pretty reliable, except the old Soviet designs) then it should be possible to jury rig a system to extend the oxygen supply considerably. Hell, it should be standard for the life support system of any space faring shuttle and ship to have a self contained battery backup for air recycling which should last for a few days in case of an emergency.

Yeah, CO2-scrubbing has been around for centuries and can be as simple as packets of CO2 absorbing material (just need sufficient surface area and airflow), and in principle even full recycling shouldn't take a huge amount of energy or equipment. If major systems are down, I'd be a lot more worried about temperature. Emergency heaters can keep them warm, but if they're too close to the system primary, they'll need working radiators and heat exchangers to keep from overheating.

Place cans of the stuff in a cabinet somewhere that can be used in an emergency. Remove a seal and shake it around from time to time. This also helps against the cold a but through the exercise.

wedgekree wrote:And I wonder if leading the missiles into the defense station was the best option. It's still a defense station protecting a region of the sector. was it a great tactical tradeoff to destroy the station/inflict heavy damage on it to use it as cover from the torpedos? That just seems like not a great maneuer to do as far as an exchange goes. A shuttle with 5-6 passengers on it survives by leading the torpedo strike to at least the still operational message/defense station.

Well, 16 torpedos of that barrage weren't trying to hit the station anymore. They just might be destroyed in the explosion wavefront of those that did hit the station.