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Re: Concept Fanart of Future Terran Ship Designs

Posted: Wed Dec 18, 2013 11:45 pm
by CrimsonFALKE
discord wrote:crimson: well, considering that fire rate on railguns currently is counted in hours, might get that down to minutes, means you can get ONE shot off per gun, the extra effective range of the railguns higher muzzle velocity would be nice, but compare that to a chemical gatling, 0.5/minute(damn near dream levels of RoF.) or 4000/minute(currently available.), the second of the two is also a low power system and smaller, so you can have more of them....
i know which one i would prefer.
Well you really need to take into account an ETC can well do a good scale of weapons, not to mention the railgun can go a long way in the next 200+ years. Coil guns are much more likely to be functional.

Re: Concept Fanart of Future Terran Ship Designs

Posted: Thu Dec 19, 2013 12:38 am
by discord
crimson: ETC(ElectroThermal-chemical) guns ARE chemical guns, not railgun nor coilgun, it is just a chemical gun with advancement in ignition and propellants.
i do not see how that effects my argument that EM-powered guns as CIWS will not be a good idea.

Re: Concept Fanart of Future Terran Ship Designs

Posted: Thu Dec 19, 2013 1:55 am
by CrimsonFALKE
discord wrote:crimson: ETC(ElectroThermal-chemical) guns ARE chemical guns, not railgun nor coilgun, it is just a chemical gun with advancement in ignition and propellants.
i do not see how that effects my argument that EM-powered guns as CIWS will not be a good idea.
A railgun not good as a CIWS would largely depend on style and tracking, most Anti ship weapons can do close to mach 8. the only only thing that can fire in a similar speed is a rail gun. i mean really it only matters the type of counter measure needed. Most of your argument isn't valid because you really have failed to think of CIWS beyond an M61, and secondly you scratched out 200 years of research. Personally I think a laser is the way to go.

Re: Concept Fanart of Future Terran Ship Designs

Posted: Thu Dec 19, 2013 2:22 pm
by discord
crimson: well, you brought up a slug thrower, i countered with a better slug thrower.
now a EM near C weapon, i'll counter with a particle beam weapon, both should work, but the particle beam would probably be superior.

Re: Concept Fanart of Future Terran Ship Designs

Posted: Thu Dec 26, 2013 4:18 am
by CrimsonFALKE
Image Merry Christmas The TCMC's laser rifle. I know it looks very traditional with a RIS and battery in the stock like a common bullpup configuration although to be fair I gave it a thermal masking heat sink mounted along the barrel. The two blue circles are moissanite conductors that produce rapid fire beams.

Re: Concept Fanart of Future Terran Ship Designs

Posted: Sat Jan 25, 2014 12:34 am
by RedDwarfIV
Drew this in two hours. I'm planning to colour it.
Image

Re: Concept Fanart of Future Terran Ship Designs

Posted: Sat Jan 25, 2014 12:39 am
by CrimsonFALKE
Very nice work man!

Re: Concept Fanart of Future Terran Ship Designs

Posted: Sat Jan 25, 2014 12:51 am
by RedDwarfIV
CrimsonFALKE wrote:Very nice work man!
Thanks. This is only the second time I've done pencil-like drawing on my tablet. I may be using transparent grey a lot more in future.

I decided to draw this rather than build it on Starmade because it's a lot faster to draw it. The only problem is that I have a very poor sense of perspective.

Re: Concept Fanart of Future Terran Ship Designs

Posted: Sat Jan 25, 2014 1:03 am
by CrimsonFALKE
what did you think of my own ship I posted here?

Re: Concept Fanart of Future Terran Ship Designs

Posted: Sat Jan 25, 2014 1:08 am
by RedDwarfIV
CrimsonFALKE wrote:what did you think of my own ship I posted here?
Can you try uploading it to Imgur or Postimg? It's 404ing for me so I can't see it.

Re: Concept Fanart of Future Terran Ship Designs

Posted: Sat Jan 25, 2014 1:13 am
by CrimsonFALKE
RedDwarfIV wrote:
CrimsonFALKE wrote:what did you think of my own ship I posted here?
Can you try uploading it to Imgur or Postimg? It's 404ing for me so I can't see it.
Image its not a fanfic ship but I was comparing its layout to some of the loroi ships

Re: Concept Fanart of Future Terran Ship Designs

Posted: Sat Jan 25, 2014 9:20 am
by fredgiblet
RedDwarfIV wrote:Drew this in two hours. I'm planning to colour it.
I like.

Re: Concept Fanart of Future Terran Ship Designs

Posted: Sat Jan 25, 2014 11:11 am
by RedDwarfIV
Crimson, that's a nice ship. Not many turrets though, and unless it's black for marginal stealth, it could do with some colour.

Re: Concept Fanart of Future Terran Ship Designs

Posted: Sat Jan 25, 2014 3:56 pm
by CrimsonFALKE
Actually it is stealth, the black is a combination of RAM and other stealth materials. It can operate in atmosphere and perform fire support as for few turrets most are hidden although it does leave several exposed of point defense.

Re: Concept Fanart of Future Terran Ship Designs

Posted: Sat Jan 25, 2014 4:51 pm
by RedDwarfIV
Ah, cool.

Does it have wings?

Re: Concept Fanart of Future Terran Ship Designs

Posted: Sat Jan 25, 2014 6:19 pm
by CrimsonFALKE
RedDwarfIV wrote:Ah, cool.

Does it have wings?
Those are the aft shield generators this ship is a combination of an LAH and a destroyer. its meant to be a cost effective. To maintain level flight in atmosphere it used anti-gravity generators + thrust.

Re: Concept Fanart of Future Terran Ship Designs

Posted: Mon Jan 27, 2014 1:30 am
by RedDwarfIV
Progress:
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Re: Concept Fanart of Future Terran Ship Designs

Posted: Tue Jan 28, 2014 4:00 pm
by GeoModder
Looks like a cross between a Terran cruiser and an Umiak gunboat. ;)

No windows? The engines look too small compared to the rest of the hull to give the ship a decent acceleration. At least, compared with the engine sizes on Arioch's designs.

Re: Concept Fanart of Future Terran Ship Designs

Posted: Tue Jan 28, 2014 4:44 pm
by RedDwarfIV
GeoModder wrote:Looks like a cross between a Terran cruiser and an Umiak gunboat. ;)
Heh, I did notice the similarity, the sort of hammer-head shape.
GeoModder wrote:No windows?
Arioch wrote:I would expect observation platforms (and windows in general) to be crew comfort features rather than practical ones. The view when orbiting a planet is going to be quite spectacular. You just need to make sure any such viewing areas are outside the armor, and the access points need to be reinforced airlocks.
Besides, it's a small spacecraft. A lot of stuff would be between the hull and crew spaces, for radiation shielding if nothing else. And there is an observation room at the back of the main hull. It's the yellow bits with white shading.
GeoModder wrote:The engines look too small compared to the rest of the hull to give the ship a decent acceleration. At least, compared with the engine sizes on Arioch's designs
Have you heard of the Rocket Equation? Larger ships need more fuel to move their mass, so carry comparitively larger fuel tanks. As for the engine nozzles, well, smaller engines have higher specific impulse. When you don't need a lot of thrust to accellerate quickly, why not have high fuel efficiency too?

Re: Concept Fanart of Future Terran Ship Designs

Posted: Tue Jan 28, 2014 5:27 pm
by Grayhome
Why do people keep saying we need windows? We have very nice crisp HD computer screens with tactical HUD overlay, why would we want to add structural weaknesses to the ship when we have no need too? I can understand the romantic desire, but from a practical viewpoint I simply do not see the necessity.

Am I missing something obvious here? What practical use to windows serve that cannot be achieved through a combination of sensor suits and computer relays.