Re: The Loroi are Evil!
Posted: Tue Feb 17, 2015 1:42 am
So you're saying its alright for them to go and wipe out every live or unborn Umiak they come across? Based on your logic say the Loroi win, what's to stop them from thinking they can wipe out any other race they deem a threat or unfit to survive? I mean since they are the successful race they should be allowed to do what they please cause you know having morals seems to be a weakness. I'm not saying the Loroi should try to be all buddy, buddy with the Umiak cause that's just fricking ridiculous, but wiping them out makes them no better if not worse because if they are as superior as they claim to be then they should have a way to win without committing genocide.Senanthes wrote:There's no need for a sliding moral gauge here, since morality doesn't even enter into the equation...Philly wrote:Oh, so you find it acceptable to slaughter innocent men, women, and children of another race? Committing genocide means KILLING EVERYONE regardless of age, sex, or anything else. There are no exceptions. Any race that commits such an act for whatever reason is utterly monstrous and deserves to be sent back to the Stone Age, no matter how many times it takes, till they learn the value of life.fredgiblet wrote:
Putting the survival of your species over the survival of another species requires no morality adjustment? I disagree. The survival of your own species should take top priority over everything, the only thing that would come close would be the survival of a close ally.
Your argument assumes that the effort isn't mutual, and that one party, or the other, can safely let their enemy continue to exist as a star faring, war fighting culture. It is invalid on that basis alone. When your enemy does not share your same moral compass, AND can match you punch for punch, you either have to be prepared to meet them blow for blow, no matter how far you have to go with it, or... You die. Choices don't get any simpler than that. Morality is a luxury for less severe circumstances.
What does that make the Loroi and Umiak? In the end, survivors. Both know the value of survival, and it's a simple law of nature at work in the current war. Successful species have never been nice about being successful, and didn't get to where they are by rolling over when confronted with a distasteful choice. They did so by going over the top of other, less successful creatures, in some cases rendering them extinct.
It's not a choice between moral issues, but rather one of literal life or death. You can take the moral road, and lose, since your enemy can outproduce you by a fair margin in both manpower and materiel, and has displayed no qualms about seizing advantages as they come along. Or, you can take the immoral road, and possibly survive. Frankly, it's a choice I'd wish on no one, but the answer is clear cut.