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Post Re: Outcast Quest [Updated 27/7/16 - Turn 12 Results]
I've decided to aim for "wierdness".

[X] Strange Corkscrew Structures
[X] Vile Cysts
[X] Pulsating Membrane


dragoongfa wrote:
The Diaphram and the corkscrew structures sound related to their sonar like abilities.
Why would "corkscrew" say "sonar" to you? Do you think sound here is circularly polarized or something?

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Well...

I would say that the Brain is a must at first glance. Since the whales do not show any signs of Jump sickness the nervous system must have something to do with it.
Which I expect won't be translatable to Humanity any faster than just researching Jump Sickness. Any benefit from Brain will probably be from something else.

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The Viscous substance and the vile cysts sound weird at first but they may be related to their immune system with everything that entails in medical research.
Vile Cysts are probably either what you think, or some sort of reproductive/excretory/etc system. I suppose that they could use them for sound detection (ala Ampullae of Lorenzini), but that's all I can think of.

The Viscous Substance, on the other hand, makes me think "blood", and "slug/hagfish slime". Blood is of course commonly related to immune function, but we don't actually know where this stuff came from. It could be breast milk, for instance.

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Skeletal and Circulatory system would show us any potential weakness.
Or maybe they'll have a useful substance, e.g. carbon nanotubes.

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The Pulsating Membrane, I don't know what that will be.
Maybe a fetus, maybe an "escape organ" that can take the most recent of the whale's memories and start the maturation process again, maybe a parasite, maybe a biological tracking device.


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Survey Is Up.

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Starting to join you. Started reading up a bit, while having followed this thread the last round....

Brain? Why research that? Just killing the wonders of vacuum-life alone is an ethical problem. Are these whales that common, or do we know of only one or two groups? Once the brain tells us these Whales are sapient-able, we should stop. Just take the cynical approach and leave that for later. Whatever we can learn there we cannot use for ourselves anyway, we would have to modify Humans to a degree that they would stop being Humans.
[edit]Absalom already had the same idea. It would help checking for a new page before answering... d'uh![/edit]

We do not know much about their biosphere yet, so observation may be more useful before examining their digestive tracts. Once we've seen them eat, we know more. And if they "eat" and breakdown asteroids and re-compose that matter, we will find the remains even if they are fully decomposed.
Skeletal system should be able to resist decomposing a bit longer anyway. We should be able to research parts of that even after decomposing of the corpse.

For that reason, my choices would be rather random and pointed towards things which decompose fast. Like organs, circulatory systems, cysts, brain, viscous substance, ...

The pulsating membrane may be their defecatory organ. Somehow even vacuum organisms need to get rid of accumulating poisonous matter. A membrane to kick it out into space may be their way, as they still need to seal against vacuum.


Or have I missed things we already know about the Whales?

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Voted:

[x]Brain
[x]Corkscrew structures
[x]Viscous substance

Mostly stuff that I believed would offer some insights about the whales themselves.

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Post Re: Outcast Quest [Updated 27/7/16 - Turn 12 Results]
Voted as I previously said.

Krulle wrote:
A membrane to kick it out into space may be their way, as they still need to seal against vacuum.


Or have I missed things we already know about the Whales?
Well, there is the fact that we've never actually seen them inside of a vacuum, hence why sonar works here.

One of the possible concerns with hunting whales is that the local super-power is not the Loroi, but instead a silicon-based species that considers carbon-based species to be tools... and creates such. So we might be interfering with someone else's mining operation.


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Survey Closed. Apologies for the delay, a lot of stuff came up.

Here's what you got.

Tactical Turn Results

[X] Stomach Contents

Probing the stomach contents of a filter feeding organism the size of a football field was an interesting experience for most of your scientists. And by interesting, they meant creepy and unnerving. Still, they did discover a lot about the whales diet. It seems that they mostly feed on the gases of the jovian-like environment itself, filtering in heavy particles that then get broken down and digested by various enzymes and acids, same as most any other living organism really. Such particles can vary from micro-fine dust not all to different from proplyd material to chunks as large as their mouths can stretch.

Fortunately it seems that the whales themselves have no teeth, so it's highly doubtful that they're carnivorous. That seems to be the Manta's evolutionary niche.

Further investigation did reveal something quite useful though. A beneficial gut bacteria was found that is highly efficient at breaking down organic molecules. Samples and testing reveal they could have an enormous benefit to any organic recycling measures you care to implement.

Reward: Stomach Contains Beneficial Microbe, +100% to Recycling Tanks

[X] The Brain

Whales on Earth are believed to be intelligent, even if their language is an uncrackable mess of metaphor and impenetrable cultural references to which you have no reference points. Many of your scientists were both excited and afraid that they'd gone out and killed the Whale's equivalent of Mozart, Picasso, or Einstein.

They needn't have worried. The whales are as dumb as a doorknocker. Dumber in fact. Though their brains are quite large in comparison to even the brainiest terran creature, the neurons are too spread out for them to have any sort of coordinated and focused intellect, being more akin to dullest cows. They have enough intelligence to smell out new sources of food, to breed, to recognise danger, and so forth, but abstract reasoning, language and even self awareness are questionable. As one report put it "They have more in common with a terran fish than they do a terran whale."

Reward: Knowledge on Whale Intellect, +10 to future Whale Hunts

[X] Strange Corkscrew Structures

While your other research teams were covering the more familiar structures to expand your knowledge about the whales in general, these structures piqued the interest of many, having no earthly equivalent of any kind.

They set to work eagerly, though carefully, dissecting the structures in order to determine precisely what they were for.

After much consternation and debate, along with some plain observation, your scientists have determined that these corkscrews are a unique form of propulsion. A series of microstructures cover the surfaces of the corkscrew. As gas passes over them, a strange electrochemical effect occurs, with the resulting gas escaping the structure faster than it entered. The result is propulsion, allowing the whales to move their bulk with much more agility than a mere flipper could muster, though they seem to have retained those structures for attitude control.

The corkscrew propulsor is able to vary its width and length, and thus the strength of its propulsive effect, as well as close off altogether, allowing the whale to stop. Reversing the direction of the corkscrew seems to have the reverse effect, allowing the whales to slow down without turning.

Your scientists believe that they can replicate the structure for the most part for incorporation into the drone designs that were drawn up a while back. Additionally, they believe that a propulsion module could be added onto the L'Amour's outer engine block that would allow for faster transit within the Briar Patch. For obvious reasons, this propulsive method only works within your home region of space.

Reward: Unique Propulsion, Corkscrew Propulsion Module (Requires Drydock): Reduces transit time to exit Briar Patch down to one week (two months by default), +200 Drone Research

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So, you got some fairly nice bonuses, and there are definitely more in the wings. Whale hunting will be a repeatable military action which will result in further tactical turns, but bear in mind that while the whales are essentially stupid, they're not completely dumb and will wise up to your hunting them over time or if you roll poorly.

As an aside, if you succeed on your next whale hunt, you can repeat these actions again, though your bonuses will be slightly lower.

I need to do some bookeeping cleanup and rolls for the end of your first year as a colony. So far you've done well. :twisted:

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I propose in the future continue to explore the impeller, and the other two options take something incomprehensible, like membrane, for example.

Nice work, Razor.


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Nice...

The Recycling center now got very sexy in the build order, we also got the upgrade that helps with the hunting so that's an extra bonus.

The propulsion module and drone research stuff are great but I got one question in regards to the Briar patch.

Does the transit time of two months is the time needed to go from one end of the Briar patch to the other or from where Niflheim is to its edge?

EDIT: Also since Whale hunting takes 2 turns does this mean that we will get an other tactical turn or does this mean that the whalers need to take some down time?

EDIT2: Also how many whales are there in the Briar patch?

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Transit time is from your current position to the edge nearest to Loroi space. It used to be a month but you've drifted further in over the past year. Most of that was because of fuel limitations and top speed considerations in a dense atmosphere. Your engines are designed for vacuum after all, and your hull isn't fully aerodynamic. The Corkscrew propellers basically circumvent most of your problems.

The whale hunting option hasn't been updated since you first encountered the whales in a scouting mission. Since they're right at your doorstep, it only takes one turn now.

The number of whales in your local area that you can see range into the thousands, not including their young. The briar patch as a whole is vast, and there could be potentially millions or more, depending on the ecosystem. You've only just scratched the surface there.

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Hmm...

Will need to make some alterations to the build plan in order to save time.

EDIT: Updated the headplan to take into account the time saving effects of the corkscrew module and its need for a dry-dock:

https://docs.google.com/spreadsheets/d/ ... edit#gid=0

Moved the Warehousing down and put a second round of Whalers in since its both something that people will now want and its relatively cheap. In the next round we will go as low as 1000RU in the reserves but after that we will see a steady increase especially when the Recycling center kicks in.

EDIT2: Forgot to ask, when will the population increase kick in?

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Awesome outcomes, glad we went with those strange corkscrews! That should in time make chasing us into the briarpatch a very bad idea for enemies. With those kinds of bonuses a second round of whaling is indeed pretty appealing. Not sure I'd advocate another hit of spirals though, I suspect the diminished returns on that will make the opportunity cost on getting other bonuses fairly painful, though it's hard to say that for sure without fore-knowledge of what the options are of course.

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Population increase kicks in next turn, but since they're only infants they're not going to add to your productive population for another 18 years. 16 if a majority of the thread argues for a decrease in working age, though that may have consequences.

I've got to do a lot more cleaning up of various bits and pieces, odds and ends. I've transferred the character sheets over to an excel document. Should make keeping things up to date easier, though I've yet to apply all your stat gains. I've also got to go over your commodities you brought over. The bees are an issue if I recall, and my internal time limit was a year for their stasis. The various saplings should be able to manage for a while longer. Their growth is stunted until you build plantation structures for them, something I'll include in next turns stewardship actions.

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Razor One wrote:
Population increase kicks in next turn, but since they're only infants they're not going to add to your productive population for another 18 years. 16 if a majority of the thread argues for a decrease in working age, though that may have consequences.


Maybe they can let themselves be "persuaded" to take some disgruntled civilian cast workers of their forthcoming loroi allies hands as a sign of friendship. :mrgreen:


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@Razor

The bees should have been included in the diversification process. In fact the potato plant requires pollination so some bees should have been out from day 1.

EDIT: In fact: viewtopic.php?p=21296#p21296

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Corn, wheat and rice will require you to UNLEASH THE BEES, though your potatoes won't need them.


Corn and Wheat don't require pollination but Rice does and it is among our staples so the bees should be in picture with the diversification process.

EDIT2: Regarding the saplings, they are all genetic samples that require a biolab to produce them so we shouldn't have a problem with their being in the fridge:

viewtopic.php?p=20798#p20798

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Razor One wrote:
Population increase kicks in next turn, but since they're only infants they're not going to add to your productive population for another 18 years. 16 if a majority of the thread argues for a decrease in working age, though that may have consequences.
No, they should be contributing a little around the time of their teens, even if just as a consequence of handling chores & educational projects (if not for the creche, and the daycare that it'll presumably develop into, they should be reducing productivity for the earier bits of their lives). Given that the population were colonists, they should be expecting the same too, since it basically falls under the same "rules of pragmatism" as kids growing up on a farm; even in Western societies this "no working till age of majority" stuff only applies to developed living situations.

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Maybe they can let themselves be "persuaded" to take some disgruntled civilian cast workers of their forthcoming loroi allies hands as a sign of friendship. :mrgreen:
If I were the Loroi, I wouldn't offer even rebellious civilian caste to someone that I'd known for less than several years, though that is faster than waiting on human maturation.

If we want population increases in the "near" future, then we're looking at either Urkuk (very fast life cycles) or immigration.

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@Razor

The bees should have been included in the diversification process. In fact the potato plant requires pollination so some bees should have been out from day 1.
Potato flowers don't produce nectar, so the bees would quickly die. Nothing in the easily available set of plants will make nectar available. I talked about this with Razor before the pause.

In short, you guys flunked your homework.

Also, potatoes only need pollination when producing new varieties (which I assume is the back-story for them, since none of the convenient cargo calls for them), potato propogation is primarily via root cuttings, much like roses & strawberries. I thought this was common knowledge?

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Corn, wheat and rice will require you to UNLEASH THE BEES, though your potatoes won't need them.


Corn and Wheat don't require pollination but Rice does and it is among our staples so the bees should be in picture with the diversification process.
Rice is wind fertilized, just like corn and wheat (and yes, I checked). All of the grasses (which all three are members of) are wind fertilized. Bees might take advantage of their pollen on occasion, but the plant gains nothing from it.



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My original post on nectar: link. Don't say that I didn't warn you, because I did. Your belief that Staples + Bees was enough for Honey was completely off-base and unresearched, which is why I mentioned Nectar.

And no, the wheat, rice, and corn don't produce nectar either.

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EDIT2: Regarding the saplings, they are all genetic samples that require a biolab to produce them so we shouldn't have a problem with their being in the fridge:

viewtopic.php?p=20798#p20798
And so is the Algae. Every saving grace that the Bees could have counted on is non-existent. You'd basically have to find some way to extract the sugar from something, at which point you're probably looking at Biolab or similar regardless. You guys should have swapped Algae and Bees for each other.

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joestej thought trees would be ready to cut down in a year? Man, I hope you guys weren't counting on that. That's a Hemp growth rate, not a tree growth rate.


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Yeah, your current set of stuff doesn't include plants that are rich in nectar for the bees to live off. You need flowering plants for that, so oranges, berries and the like. Your insect population is benefitting from the diversification, but not the bees.

That being said, there is a solution. You can render some of your food production into maltose which can then be broken down into glucose, which the bees can then digest and convert into poor quality honey. It'll help them survive and give you a fairly basic sweetener.

I'm thinking 50 Food -> 5 Honey (Poor) production for now until you can net yourself some flowering plants. It'll keep your bees alive and you can probably consume the honey for a small morale boost or sell it as a basic sweetener to the Loroi later on.

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And there I was thinking that Razor would not got full realism...

In any case our increase food production is about to kick in so we can sacrifice 50 or 100 food units for the bees until we find a replacement.

EDIT: Besides, what's a game without some player error and the small punishment to fix it ? :P

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I try to use realism where it's most interesting, and let it slide where it's least interesting. Case in point, letting the L'Amour travel through the Briar Patch without an aerodynamic mod so you don't burn your hull going full speed ahead. :P

Letting your bees live because they can live off sugar instead of letting them die is another. The malus to food production is small enough to let slide and large enough to be slightly punishing, and I figured I'd just give it to you straight up instead of having a vote on whether or not to save the bees, since I'm fairly sure you'll want to preserve your unique commodities.

That being said, notice how there's a quality indicator there. The poor quality makes the honey a cheap and nasty sweetener, you may as well be using the sugar you feed the bees there. Get some flowering plants though, and the quality will improve. Get a nice variety going, or score a high roll on certain plants, and you can improve the quality, which has knock on benefits. High quality honey can supplement some of your medicinals and provides other trade goods such as beeswax.

Trade is a big thing if you can crack into the right markets. :)

Character Sheets, by the way.

Also, regarding your growth:

Counting from turn two, the number of pregnancies amongst your colonists were:

Turn 2: 14
Turn 3: 9
Turn 4: 7
Turn 5: 1
Turn 6: 19
Turn 7: 1
Turn 8: 19
Turn 9: 15
Turn 10: 19
Turn 11: 20
Turn 12: 4

Hmm. It seems people were getting down and busy during the Christmas - Fenrir season. Makes sense to me! **waggles eyebrows suggestively**.

I'm not counting turn one because **waves hands** reasons.

Your total growth was 128, subtracting from your 217 women, that leaves 89 women that either didn't do the deed or had rotten luck. There's a two year cooldown on pregnancies, so your growth will slow. I think I've excluded the crew members, though if I haven't then uh... twins. Yeah. Your crew won't be indisposed without special dispensation from you, though relationships may form between them or the colonists if you leave them long enough.

Trying to work things a bit, I'm going to pretend that children will eat at half rations until they hit adulthood, so they are a net drain on your food production, but thems the breaks if you want to grow things up the old fashioned way. There are ways around your growth problem, but do consider the potential pitfalls of integrating aliens into your culture while you are small and vulnerable.

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Yeah, putting aliens in while the colony is young is a recipe for disaster. The Loroi children who owe us their lives are one thing but any other group would be problematic. A Loroi envoy and a few honor guards are the best we can accommodate for now. Anymore than this before our colony has grown into a power to reckon with just invites trouble.

Hell, I would be weary even if we got other humans to join us; who knows how they would have turned out if they hadn't got a cure for the jump sickness.

In any case for the time being our goal is to put down the final roots of our colony and go take a look by the corner and drop off the kids to their own.

So...

Work faster Razor :P

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Letting your bees live because they can live off sugar instead of letting them die is another. The malus to food production is small enough to let slide and large enough to be slightly punishing, and I figured I'd just give it to you straight up instead of having a vote on whether or not to save the bees, since I'm fairly sure you'll want to preserve your unique commodities.

That being said, notice how there's a quality indicator there. The poor quality makes the honey a cheap and nasty sweetener, you may as well be using the sugar you feed the bees there. Get some flowering plants though, and the quality will improve. Get a nice variety going, or score a high roll on certain plants, and you can improve the quality, which has knock on benefits. High quality honey can supplement some of your medicinals and provides other trade goods such as beeswax.

Trade is a big thing if you can crack into the right markets. :)
It is worth bearing in mind that some nectars and pollens are poisonous to bees and/or produce poisonous honey: Rhododendron has this with both nectar and honey, for both bees and humans, for example. Thus, whether it be from the data drives, or some alien biota that you think can fill the role, always check for hidden dangers before-hand.

On the other hand, also bear in mind that some categories of quasi- or semi- honeys may be safe when you wouldn't expect it: Pine Honey is a honeydew-honey produced from the excretions of scale insects feeding on pine trees, for example, but both pine sap and pine resin are mostly just useful for industry or chewing gum. Also, since it basically just needs to be a liquidish edible with sugar content, there may indeed be some alien plants (or even animals!) that could provide base material.


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Horribly delayed, etc. etc.

Revamped a few things here and there. Read carefully.

May 2nd 2156

Turn 13


The results of the whale hunt have gone spectacularly well for your colony, with lots of potential applications across the board. A few people did voice concerns about hunting them, but with thousands of them milling about, they’re hardly going to go extinct from some limited hunting, and at the end of the day between your survival or theirs, you choose your own people, every time.

A minor situation developed regarding your bees, namely that the time limit for their stasis was close to expiring and had to be revived. Without a source of nectar and pollen though, they were bound to starve. Fortunately your scientists sacrificed some of your food production (-50 Food) to produce sugar to keep them going. On the plus side, you’re getting some low quality honey each month out of the deal. (+5 Honey [Poor] Per Turn).

The month dealing with the increased level of jump sickness has been hard on you all. Morale is down, and while productivity is unaffected so far, both Dr. Campos and Volkova believe it’s only a matter of time before that situation changes. For better or worse they didn’t say.

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Martial: Both Commander O'Malley and Colonel Pierce have begun work to secure your colony's future with their military knowledge and might. (Choose One) (Bonus: +15 To Military Knowledge)

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[] Combat Exercises: Commander O'Malley wants to run a series of combat simulations aimed at determining how best to defend the colony in case of an incursion by Urkuk or something worse.

Cost: 0, Time: 1 Month, Chance of Success: 40%, Reward: A better idea of how you'll fare in a worst case scenario.

[] Whalers of the Sky 2: The whaling expedition last month was a smashing success, and your scientists could always use a few more samples.

Cost: 0 RU, Time: 1 Month, Chance of Success: 70%, Reward: New research options, +10 to the roll.

[] Manta’s Gonna Die: Whales aren’t the only thing flitting about in your skies. The Manta’s have also been prowling about, ambushing, hunting and otherwise killing whales to feed themselves. They’re faster, more agile, and almost certainly more intelligent than their relatively bovine cousins.

Cost: 0 RU, Time: 1 Month, Chance of Success: ???, Reward: New Research Options, ???

[] Chemical Missile Plant: Basic chemical missile production facilities. Not the best in the universe, but better than nothing.

Cost: 5000 RU, 250 RU Upkeep, Time: 3 Months, Chance of Success: 50%, Reward: Missile production.

[] Niflheim CIWS: A series of defensive CIWS batteries for your colony that will attempt to shoot down anything that threatens you that is within range.

Cost: 5000 RU, 500 RU Upkeep, Time: 2 Months, Chance of Success: 60%, Reward: Colony better defended.

[] Niflheim Missile Batteries (Requires Chemical Missile Plant): Missile Batteries for your colony, allowing you to fire on enemy ships at greater range and accuracy than your CIWS system.

Cost: 5000 RU, 500 RU Upkeep, Time: 3 Months, Chance of Success: 40%, Reward: Colony better defended, can support actions at greater range.

[] Shipyard (Requires Drydock): A place for building ships.

Time: 3 Months, Cost: 3000 RU, Chance of Success: 60%, Reward: Allows the production of frigate and scout vessels.

[] Shipyard II (Requires Shipyard): A place for building larger ships.

Time: 3 Months, Cost: 3000 RU, Chance of Success: 60%, Reward: Allows the production of destroyers.

[] Shipyard III (Requires Shipyard II): A place for building even larger ships.

Time: 3 Months, Cost: 3000 RU, Chance of Success: 60%, Reward: Allows the production of cruisers.

[] Shipyard IV (Requires Shipyard III): A place for building ships loaded for bear.

Time: 3 Months, Cost: 3000 RU, Chance of Success: 60%, Reward: Allows the production of carriers and battlecruisers.


Diplomacy: Lieutenant Izumi is your most effective diplomat when it comes to aliens, though you're no slouch yourself in that department. (Choose One.)

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[] Working Relations: Until recently you've kept the Loroi under guard and interacting with your military personnel only. With your recent successes in introducing them to your civilian population and their general itch to do something, it may be time to offer them some work on a purely voluntary basis.

Cost: 0, Time: 1 Month, Chance of Success: ???, Reward: ???

[] Governance: Jonathan Spencer is busy heading the newly re-organised civilian branch of your government. While his party’s stated goals were furthering man’s knowledge and the potential for discovery, it couldn’t hurt to have a chat regarding future policy.

Cost: 0, Time: 1 Month, Chance of Success: ???, Reward: ???

[] Colonial Authority: Sometimes the best way to see a project to success isn’t careful planning or meticulous organisation. Sometimes you just need to throw resources at the problem until it solves itself. Sadly your authority isn’t nearly absolute enough to just do it. You simply need to convince a few bureaucrats in the new government about the merits of the idea to help things along.

Cost: 0, Time: 1 Month, Chance of Success: 100%, Reward: Colonial Authority allows you to double down on one action, giving +20 to the roll at the cost of doubling the resources it requires.


Stewardship: Alex Cole and an economist, Samantha Nguyen, have worked out not only a way to easily tabulate your resources, but also what you can do to build your colony up. (Choose Two)

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[] Recycling Tanks: Recycling is a time honoured tradition of any successful colonisation. Why throw away anything that can be broken down and reused?

Cost: 500 RU, Time: 1 Month, Chance of Success: 100%, Reward: +2 RU per Population

[] Hab-Complex Expansion (Small): Expand your hab complex and give your population some room to grow.

Cost: 500 RU, 125 RU Upkeep, Chance of Success: 100%, Reward: Hab Complex Expanded, Room for +250 People

[] Hab-Complex Expansion (Large): Expand your hab complex even more and give your population room to grow.

Cost: 1000 RU, 250 RU Upkeep, Chance of Success: 100%, Reward: Hab Complex Expanded, Room for +500 People

[] Agricultural Complex Expansion: An expansion to your existing Agri-Complex, this expansion will increase your food production capacity.

Cost: 2250 RU, Time: 1 Month, Chance of Success: 80%, Reward: Agricultural Complex Expanded, Increased Food Production, +500 Food, requires 250 RU upkeep, requires two turns to begin production after completion.

[] Crop Diversification: You brought more than just potatoes with you. Introduce these crops to your agri-complex and diversify your foods. [IN PROGRESS UNTIL TURN 15]

Cost: Agricultural Yield Halved, Time: 8 Months, Reward: Diversified Crops, chance of crop failure falls to zero, colonists happy about not having a diet of 100% potatoes, once executed, does not occupy Stewardship slot.

[] Expanded Yeast Production: More yeast. More food.

Cost: 750 RU, 125 RU Upkeep, Time: 2 Months, Chance of Success: 80%, Reward: Yeast Production Plant Expanded, +500 Food.

[] Stabilisation Thrusters: Pimp your ride and roll on around the Briar Patch with these sweet 'air' breathing rockets. Allows you to move your home slowly with constant thrust, so long as it stays in the Briar Patch.

Cost: 2000 RU, 375 RU Upkeep, Time: 2 Months, Chance of Success: 30%, Reward: Able to move asteroid home (slowly) out of harms way.

[] Science Annex: A place for general scientific inquiry.

Cost: 5000 RU, 250 RU Upkeep, Time: 3 Months, Chance of Success: 70%, Reward: Additional Learning Action Unlocked, All Learning based actions gain an additional 1d100, reduced difficulty for various projects.

[] Biolab (Requires Science Annex): The biolab will handle all science biological, from alien physiology, botany and disease control, to genetic manipulation and vaccination production.

Cost: 5000 RU, Time: 2 Months, Chance of Success: 80%, Reward: More research options, Biology based science gains additional 2d100.

[] Physics Lab (Requires Science Annex): The physics lab will handle all science physical, allowing you to understand the new realm you find yourself in more fully.

Cost: 5000 RU, Time: 3 Months, Chance of Success: 80%, Reward: More research options, physics related research gains an additional 2d100.

[] Engineering Bay (Requires Science Annex): The engineering bay will handle all science engineering, from prototyping new designs to solving practical problems.

Cost: 5000 RU, Time: 3 Months, Chance of Success: 80%, Reward: More research options, engineering related research gains an additional 2d100, lowered difficulty for engineering related options.

[] Mining Operations: Start mining operations on a nearby mineral rich moon with whatever you can scrape together.

Cost: 10,000 RU, Time: 1 Month, Chance of Success: 100%, Reward: Mining operations commenced, +500 RU per turn, unlocks new options.

[] Mining Operations Expansion: Expand your existing mine on Niflheim for more glorious ore. Due to the depth of your current mine, further expansion will be a bit more expensive to undertake.

Cost: +500 Per Expansion (2000) Time: 1 Month, Chance of Success: 100%, Reward: +500 RU per turn

[] Heavy Ore Refinery: “Heavy Ore” is the spacer term for difficult to refine ores, often requiring specialised conditions or equipment to get at the good stuff.

Cost: 4000 RU, Time: 3 Months, Chance of Success: 60%, Reward: +50% Base Income from Mining

[] Centrifuges (Requires Heavy Ore Refinery): A requirement for the processing of nuclear material for power generation and nuclear ordnance.

Cost: 5000 RU, Time: 3 Months, Chance of Success: 60%, Reward: Fissile Materials available for use.

[] Fission Plant (Requires Centrifuges): Modern nuclear power is safe, energetic, clean, and only slightly radioactive.

Cost: 15,000 RU, Time: 4 Months, Chance of Success: 60%, Reward: +100% Base Income from Mining, limitless power for your colony, fission warheads

[] Docks: Basic mooring and umbilicals for the L'Amour, allowing for ease of transport and for cargo and personnel and basic repairs.

Cost: 3000 RU, Time: 1 Month, Chance of Success: 70%, Reward: Allows for easy disembarkation of people and goods, Unlocks new Options.

[] Drydock (Requires Docks): More significant facilities for ship repair and modification, including an annex for smallcraft.

Cost: 3000 RU, Time: 3 Months, Chance of Success: 70%, Reward: Allows for major repairs and refitting of the L'Amour. Allows the production of smallcraft (Fighters, Corvettes) when researched.

[] Warehousing: Space to store spare parts, raw materials, and sensitive goods. Allows you to empty the L'Amour's cargo hold.

Cost: 1000 RU, Time: 1 Month, Chance of Success: 80%, Reward: A place to store goods and cargo other than the ship.

[] Machine Shop II: Allows for the reproduction and repair of more advanced tools to micron precision.

Cost: 2000 RU, Time: 2 Months, Chance of Success: 80%, Reward: Advanced Tool Production, Shipbuilding

[] Machine Shop III (Requires Machine Shop II): Allows the reproduction of precision scientific equipment and specialist equipment. Includes 3D printers for custom jobs.

Cost: 4000 RU, Time: 4 Months, Chance of Success: 70%, Reward: Scientific Tool Production, Shipbuilding

[] Skunkworks (Requires Machine Shop III): When confronted with impossible to understand supertechnology, the Skunkworks will be there to rip it apart and put it back together until they learn all its secrets.

Cost: 15,000 RU, Time: 6 Months, Chance of Success: 50%, Reward: Better able to analyse advanced alien technology, reverse engineering

[] Scrapping the Jumpdrive: Your Jumpdrive is useless here and consists of a lot of highly valuable materials that could be used elsewhere in the founding of your colony, though Volkova argues that it's made of precision parts that can't be easily reproduced.

Cost: 0, Time: 1 Month, Chance of Success: 100%, Reward: +15,000 RU.

[] Deep Pressure Proofing: When a few heads turned towards toughening up your colony versus meteors, one person had a rather bright idea. The Briar Patch is unique in that it actually has atmospheric pressure coupled with relatively free movement. With a lot of work and dedication, it's believed that your colony can be proofed against high pressure environments, allowing you to live where your enemies would find it difficult at best to get at you.

Cost: 20,000 RU, Time: 6 Months, Chance of Success: ???, Reward: Colony able to withstand up to 20 Atmospheres of Pressure.

[] Deep Pressure Proofing II (Requires Deep Pressure Proofing): Toughen up your colony even further, allowing you to hide even deeper in the Briar Patch.

Cost: 50,000 RU, Time: 6 Months, Chance of Success: ???, Reward: Colony able to withstand up to 50 Atmospheres of Pressure.

[] Deep Pressure Proofing III (Requires Deep Pressure Proofing II): Toughen up your colony yet again, allowing your colony to penetrate into the deepest regions of the Briar Patch.

Cost: 100,000 RU, Time: 12 Months, Chance of Success: ???, Reward: Colony able to withstand up to 100 Atmospheres of Pressure.


Intrigue: SOD SOP is to lay low, watch, and wait for anything that might require our attention. The Blue Rose Cell is vigilant and on standby. If something comes up, we'll contact you. (Choose One) (Bonus: +15 To Intrigue Knowledge)

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[] Every Move You Make: Part of the translated diaries the Blue Rose managed to acquire appeared to have been using a cipher or some kind of encryption. It could be nothing, it could be terribly important. Either way, the Blue Rose is eager to crack the code, with your permission of course.

Cost: 0, Time: ???, Chance of Success: ???, Reward: Information on Loroi children.

[] Keeping An Ear Out 2: Puzzling out the sonar signatures of the Briar Patch is tough work, but the Blue Rose is dedicated to nailing the necessary specifics. They don’t like the idea of anyone sneaking up on the colony anymore than you do.

Cost: 0, Time: 1 Month, Chance of Success: ??? Reward: Briar Patch Sonar resolved.


Learning: You have many skilled people at your beck and call just waiting to tear into the unknown and reveal its juicy, succulent knowledge. (Choose One) (Bonus: +15 To Roll)

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[] Psionics 101: Spear and a few of the other Loroi children have offered to demonstrate telepathy to your brains trust. The skeptics are adamant that their telepathy is the result of something perfectly reasonable, whilst the more open minded are eager to formulate a viable hypothesis.

Cost: 0, Value Needed: 0 / 500, Difficulty: Easy (4d100 + Learning), Reward: Basic scientific knowledge about Telepathy

[] Psionics 102 (Requires Psionics 101): Having learned that telepathy is actually a thing that happens with the Loroi, your scientists are eager for a deeper understanding about Sanzai.

Cost: 0, Value Needed: 0 / 500, Difficulty: Easy (4d100 + Learning), Reward: Better understanding of Loroi Telepathy

[] Psionics 201 (Requires Psionics 102): Your scientists were intrigued to learn about the possibilities of telekinesis. While the children are adamant that they don’t possess this ability, your scientists want to at least try to assess this objectively.

Cost: 0, Chance of Success: ???, Difficulty: ???, Reward: ???

[] Psionics 202 (Requires Psionics 102): Humanities telepathic deadness is a deeply intriguing question. Just how strong is this ‘lotai’? Does it extend to your entire species or only a select number of individuals?

Cost: 0, Value Needed: 0 / 500, Difficulty: Easy (4d100 + Learning), Reward: Knowledge on the extent of human Lotai

[] Teaching English: Lieutenant Izumi is feeling a mite guilty about making blazing progress when it comes to trade while Spear lags behind. Although she is learning more every day she interacts with Izumi and your other colonists, Izumi believes that helping her along couldn’t hurt.

Cost: 0, Value Needed: 1450 / 3000, Difficulty: Medium (2d100 + 2d20 + Learning), Reward: Lieutenant Izumi continues teaching English to Spear, reduced chances of misunderstanding.

[] Urkuk: Considering how prolific the Urkuk are to the region, it may be prudent to have the Lieutenant learn what she can of Urkuk. Perhaps they'll go away if you ask them nicely?

Cost: 0, Value Needed: 230 / 750, Difficulty: Easy (4d100 + 4d20 + Learning), Reward: Lieutenant Izumi increases her knowledge of Urkuk, can teach others upon completion.

[] Jump Transit Analysis: Chief Engineer Volkova wants to look over the data for your last jump transit to see if your sensors picked anything up anything unusual, perhaps what brought you here in the first place? Perhaps a clue to getting home? She's not sure.

Cost: 0, Value Needed: 0 / 500, Difficulty: Medium (2d100 + Learning), Reward: ???

[] Loroi Biochemistry: Doctor Campos would like to do a more detailed study into Loroi biochemistry to determine with certainty what foods the Loroi can handle as well as derive what nutrients they require to fully recover from their ordeal in addition to what medicines they're able to consume.

Cost: 0, Value Needed: 454 / 650, Difficulty: Medium (2d100 + Learning), Reward: Knowledge of what is and is not toxic to Loroi biochemistry.

[] Slave Collar: Chief Volkova and a number of scientists want to look into how the slave collars removed from the Loroi work.

Cost: 0, Value Needed: 25 / 50,000 (DC 90), Difficulty: Almost Impossible (1d100 + Learning, requires roll of over 90 to succeed), Reward: Knowledge of the inner workings of the collar, ???

[] Drone Design: Some of your civilian engineers want some time to continue designing those sensor drones they proposed to you.

Cost: 0, Value Needed: 264 / 500, Difficulty: Hard (1d100 + Learning), Reward: Disposable sensor drone capable of extending your sensor range.

[] Jump Sickness Research: Dr. Campos research into jump sickness has the potential to eliminate it in your population. All he needs is time.

Cost: 0, Value Needed: 819 / 2500, Difficulty: Easy (4d100 + Learning), Reward: Jump sickness penalty removed.


Personal: Months of trials and tribulations have finally come to an end and you now have a small modicum of spare time. Spend it wisely. (Choose One)

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[] Spending Time with Commander O'Malley: Commander O'Malley has been your XO for some time and you trust her implicitly. Talk shop with her on how best to proceed from here on out.

Cost: 0, Time: 1 Month, Chance of Success: 80/50/20%, Reward: +1/+2/+3 Martial, Increased Closeness with O'Malley.

[] Spending Time with Lt. Cole: Lt. Cole has done a phenomenal job of managing supply chains and shuttle schedules. Just how the hell does he manage that?

Cost: 0 Time: 1 Month, Chance of Success: 70/40/20%, Reward: +1/+2/+3 Stewardship, Increased Closeness with Lt. Cole.

[] Spending Time with Chief Engineer Volkova: The chief is a miracle worker with all things technological. Not so much with people. That doesn't mean you can't learn anything from her, and thanks to your time on the Centaur, you're as handy with a wrench as she is.

Cost: 0, Time: 1 Month, Chance of Success: 70/40/20%, Reward: +1/+2/+3 Learning, Increased Closeness with Chief Engineer Volkova.

[] Spending Time with Colonel Pierce: Colonel Pierce was rather impressed, and somewhat intimidated, by your ability to resist harsh interrogation, and he’s offered you a round of beers to celebrate.

Cost: 0, Time: 1 Month, Chance of Success: 70/40/20%, Reward: +1/+2/+3 Intrigue, Increased closeness with Colonel Pierce.

[] Spending Time with Lieutenant Izumi: Your friendship with Lieutenant Izumi is strong, but you noticed a few discrepancies in her personal history. You’re somewhat intrigued, but also wary. You could dig a little further… or you can sit back and simply enjoy her marvellous tea.

Cost: 0, Time: 1 Month, Chance of Success: 60/30/10%, Reward: +1/+2/+3 Diplomacy, Increased Closeness with Lieutenant Izumi.

[] Spending Time with Doctor Campos: Dr. Campos would like to perform a routine physical exam whenever you have the time to spare.

Cost: 0, Time, 1 Month, Chance of Success: 80/40/10%, Reward: +1/+2/+3 (Random Stat) Increased Closeness with Dr. Campos.

[] Spending Time with Spear: Spear is the leader of the Loroi and is the only one of them that speaks, making her an important point of contact. Get to know her better.

Cost: 0, Time: 1 Month, Chance of Success: ???, Reward: ???, Increased Closeness with Spear.

[] The Lost Souls: Are there other humans out there? Since the jumpdrive was invented, quite a few ships have disappeared, never to be seen again. Could they have wound up here? Could there be a successful human enclave out there? Do some research and try to figure out what the odds are.

Cost: 0, Time: 1 Month, Chance of Success: ???, Reward: List of ships likely to have misjumped before you.

[] A Difficult Subject: The Loroi children are living in your colony and have floated the idea of allowing your people to study telepathy. One of the major questions on your mind though is the nature of the slave collars you found them with and how it affected their telepathy. Though it might be difficult, having their cooperation might go a long way towards helping you study this mysterious technology.

Cost: 0. Time: 1 Month, Chance of Success: ??? Reward: Difficulty on Slave Collar study drops, ???, ???


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Vox Populi:

There’s been some talk about holding a wingsuit race when the whales have cleared off. Details are still sketchy though.

Vanessa Hughes gave birth to a healthy baby girl. Her name is Amanda.

Several Loroi children have been caught playing in the air ducts.

A sudden craving for cheese has swept through the colony. You are not immune.

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Might be some mistakes in there, appreciate feedback before survey goes up.

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Post Re: Outcast Quest [Updated 29/8/16 - Turn Thirteen]
Yay, new turn...

Nay I will be busy for a few hours ... :(

Will be back to you later.

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Post Re: Outcast Quest [Updated 29/8/16 - Turn Thirteen]
Martial: Whalers of the Sky 2 or Manta’s Gonna Die.
Diplomacy: Working Relations
Stewardship: I'm going to defer to dragoongfa here.
Intrigue: Every Move You Make
Learning: Teaching English
Personal: Who haven't we spent time with yet? Pretty sure we haven't spent time with Engineer Volkova.


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Post Re: Outcast Quest [Updated 29/8/16 - Turn Thirteen]
Martial: Mantas again. We've got that bonus to hunting, I say we should take advantage of it before trying to branch out. There's still plenty more weird things we haven't investigated on the whales

Diplomacy: I'm on the fence between working relations and governance. I leaning towards the latter, but I'm particularly open to argument here.

Stewardship: Keeping to Dragoonfa's planning here seems best, whatever that indicates at this point.

Intrigue: I'm going for Ear 2. If there's an external threat we need to be aware of, I'd rather know as soon as possible

Learning: Loroi Biochem again. Unless we have a catastrophic roll, probably for the last time, even thouh we'll likely not outright complete it this turn.

Personal: I'd say O'Malley or Spear. Knowing our XO well sounds good.

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Post Re: Outcast Quest [Updated 29/8/16 - Turn Thirteen]
My Building head plan as it stands now:

https://docs.google.com/spreadsheets/d/ ... edit#gid=0

I will give my input on the rest soon (tm)

Other stuff:

Martial: Whalers, it sounds that mantas will be harder to hunt for the time being in which case I want a better dedicated hunting ship before committing, also I think that the bonus only applies to the whales themselves.

Diplomacy: Working relations. I want to know what they are doing in the ducts.

Intrigue: Keep an ear out 2. The duct thing could be a game or something sinister but the sonar may warn us early about a bigger threat than some unarmed Loroi teens.

Learning: Loroi Biochem. It either ends this turn or we let the computer finish it up later.

Personal: I am leaning towards spear. The duct thing and some simple curiosity for the unknown stuff.

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