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Looks like it's time for an info dump. Now we get to hear the official Loroi version of the war's history.


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Yep, my suspicions that Tempo is going full out on attempting to prove what Alex truly is have a solid basis.

Her phrasing and way of with holding things is a sight to behold.

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Oh gods...!! Whenever Tempo flashes those bedroom eyes in that sly sultry way...

I COMPLETELY LOOSE IT!

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The Trinity is love.

The Trinity is life.

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hi hi

I notice that Tempo doesn't let Beryl explain what the Mizol are there for. ;)

I keep wondering what her angle is. I'm leaning towards she's telling the truth, but it feels like she's avoiding something at the same time. (Not that Alex isn't also avoiding something.)


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She's likely avoiding that their job as spies.


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Yeah, she very clearly avoids mentioning that part of her job description in favour of painting herself as a diplomat.

The reason seems fairly sensible and obvious; if she tells him she's a spook he'll be less likely to relax and divulge potentially important information. She's not even lying to him, she's just choosing to put forward certain facts ahead of others.

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And exactly that is what Mizol are trained in: speaking the truth, yet in a manner that makes you believe something which is not the full truth.

Anyway: good question, Alex. I'm looking forward to the next page with a wall of text.

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And exactly that is what Mizol are trained in: speaking the truth, yet in a manner that makes you believe something which is not the full truth.

Anyway: good question, Alex. I'm looking forward to the next page with a wall of text.


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I think Alex has connected the dots. He's an intelligent man and she's clearly spelling out that she's more then she seems without outright saying the words.

Like she's trying to make this part of her job clear to him without looking like she's aiding a potentially dangerous race of demi-loroi, which is considerate, i guess. Still, it's more subtle then having the Listel spell it out.

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0 in August, 1 in September, 1 in October, 2 in November,....
Hello Leonardo!

I wonder why Patreons should get their thank-yous on the home page and not on the patreon page....
Not that I mind, but it seems weird to ask Patreons to come to the outsider comic homepage instead of the patreons page.

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So more Readers will be interested in becoming Patreons :P

Provided that Patreon posts and WIP sketches come up with frequency as well as the other milestones then giving a small gift to everyone may convince more regular readers to chip in.

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Stillstorm dressed as a pirate. A space pirate! And looking like she enjoys a life of plunder and booty immensely.

That would please me greatly. The Holy Trinity is love, and the Holy Trinity is life, but sometimes I think the other characters get a bit neglected from time to time.

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It should be interesting to compare Tempo's narrative with the Insider's.


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It should be interesting to compare Tempo's narrative with the Insider's.


Yes it should be plus arioch comments on the war in the forum too.

As well I can understand Tempos recutlance to describe her role, as most intel organization are hesitant. The Mizol are part naval Intel, part secret police and polically active since the rise of the fourth emperor. What I'm looking forward too is Tempo and Beryl going back and forth on the wars history should be interesting, with each giving their point of view. The military version vs the official historic version respectfully.

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I wouldn't expect Temp and Beryl to differ too much, except in subtlety of delivery. The official version is the military version in a military dictatorship, and in this case a Mizol is in charge of the military to boot. And Beryl is younger than the war, younger even than the current administration(14, 25, and 20 respectively), so she won't even have her own memories of how things started to color the official version she was taught.

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Post Re: Page 108 & 109 Discussion
Krulle wrote:
I wonder why Patreons should get their thank-yous on the home page and not on the patreon page....
Not that I mind, but it seems weird to ask Patreons to come to the outsider comic homepage instead of the patreons page.

By "thank-yous" do you mean the page image itself? I can attach the image to the Patreon post, but in either case it's just one click away.

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4 times in 1 month? The end times are surely upon us.

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Post Re: Page 108 & 109 Discussion
Well it certainly sounds like Tempo is being honest so far.


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Arioch wrote:
Krulle wrote:
I wonder why Patreons should get their thank-yous on the home page and not on the patreon page....
Not that I mind, but it seems weird to ask Patreons to come to the outsider comic homepage instead of the patreons page.

By "thank-yous" do you mean the page image itself? I can attach the image to the Patreon post, but in either case it's just one click away.
30 November 2015: New page: 108
The Patreon launch has gone very well, and I'd like to thank everyone for their generous support. If you check back here tomorrow, I should have a surprise for you.
Sounded like there would be a thank-you surprise intended for the patreons.
If it's part of the comic, it should indeed go to the outsider website, but the way you formulated your sentence, it sounded like you had a thank you surprise for the patreons.

Anyway, off to read page 109 ("wall of text").


Edited to add: definitely sounds not like the Loroi wish to say that it is not entirely their fault, but she's also eager to point out that the opponent apparently had it all planned anyway.

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To me, the operative word in "If you check back here tomorrow, I should have a surprise for you." was "here", which since it was posted on the outsider page rather than the patreon page, led me to assume it would appear where it did.

I just didn't expect it to be a page.A bit of a relatively art lightpage, true, but a page even so. Bravo.

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Good to see that the comic is picking up again, can't wait to see what happens when they arrive.


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**Nitpick Mode Engage**

"The are therefore determined to eradicate us."

It should read "They are therefore determined to eradicate us."

**Nitpick Mode Disengage**

Otherwise, yes! Another page! Truly the end times have come!

It's actually a bit surprising that Tempo would admit that the Loroi fired first, albeit while being pushed into it by the Umiak. The lack of survivors from the battle certainly muddies the waters, and while she does characterise the war as a primarily defensive one, there's no way in hell it would stay that way if the Loroi were to get the advantage over the Umiak.

Not that that's a problem for anyone here. Unless there are those out there that have decided to waifu Kikitik-27. :P

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There.

To all you nay-sayers out there! :)

The "evil spying assassin of a geneocidal race", has answered with a surprisingly, to some that is, candid and honest answer to the burning question about the supposed Loroi aggression against any and all races that come within their Farseer 'sights'!

My position of supporting that the Loroi are NOT a 'viciously savage, and expansionist race bent on galactic conquest' ... is now somewhat more justified. Tempo never said they were not entirely without blame... but that whatever happened.. it was clear the Umiak were planning to attack long before the alleged incident that they responded to with total warfront invasion! Not the actions of an aggrieved innocent political party in the least!!!

...She's so pretty with her dark long hair and violent eyes! :)

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