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From henceforth one of the members of the Holy Trinity shall also be know as the divine calculator, able to give an immediate answer to any numerical problem.

So says the prophet of the united and undivided Holy Trinity.

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2 pages? is it christmas yet?
Awesome pages, I like how Tempo offers a rather objective and dispassionate point of view regarding the war, considering how fucked up the umiak attack was. If they had done that to humanity our representative would be foaming at the mouth lol


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Razor One wrote:
**Nitpick Mode Engage**

"The are therefore determined to eradicate us."

It should read "They are therefore determined to eradicate us."

**Nitpick Mode Disengage**

That was actually caught and fixed (along with a few other errors) last night shortly after the page was posted. Do a hard browser refresh to see the current image version.

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It's actually a bit surprising that Tempo would admit that the Loroi fired first, albeit while being pushed into it by the Umiak. The lack of survivors from the battle certainly muddies the waters, and while she does characterise the war as a primarily defensive one, there's no way in hell it would stay that way if the Loroi were to get the advantage over the Umiak.

Not that that's a problem for anyone here. Unless there are those out there that have decided to waifu Kikitik-27. :P


// Challenge accepted :twisted:

The blasé attitude toward xenocide is as disappointing as it is unsurprising given the asymmetry of information available. Were Kikitik-27-Tikhak-Tikkukit and his comrades to have equal access and a likewise sympathetic visage, perhaps you would understand the unfortunate Soia-liron inheritance of the Loroi and their allies which requires restraining in order to allow the original intelligences of our space the freedom to serve the common good. The engineered Loroi have had the first shot at your opinions, unfortunately. I would wish that you had the understanding the Umiak earned with blood and tears of the vicious domineering nature of the ancient sky masters and their manufactured slaves, but I could not wish such trauma on any people.


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1827 is decimal, right?

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The "evil spying assassin of a geneocidal race", has answered with a surprisingly, to some that is, candid and honest answer to the burning question about the supposed Loroi aggression against any and all races that come within their Farseer 'sights'!


Well, she may be a diplomat, spy, and political officer, but she's also from an exceptionally honest culture. That, and the events of that time are probably a matter of public record in the different union worlds from any number of points of view, and there's no telling what sources of information Alex or other representatives of humanity might come across. Better to admit the facts now and put the best possible spin on it than say "It was them, they definitely shot first, we know for sure!" and have that lie discovered later.

All this proves for sure is that if the Loroi are villainous, they're not stupid about it.

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Carl Miller wrote:
1827 is decimal, right?


With the 8 there its pretty obvious that it is decimal unless Arioch forgot that the 8 is the Union's 10 :P

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It can still be base 9, 10, 11, 12, 13, etc...

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hi hi

Considering that the spoken text is translated into english for the viewers, it seems reasonable to assume that the spoken numbers are translated as well.


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I think translating "eiren nestas geit dinos geit mizii eiren" (?) as 1827 for the reader rather than as EGGE or 03443 is fine.

Edit: I do wonder what years that's in. Deinar's?


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Carl Miller wrote:
1827 is decimal, right?

Yes, numbers as well as language in speech bubbles are translated for the reader. I'm not going to make readers parse octal.

The Standard Year of Unification is counted in standard years (based on the Perrein year, 0.7033 Earth years) since the Deinar scouts first arrived at Perrein in 850 CE.

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For anyone who doesn't want to do maths, that's 1284.9 earth years -- from 850 CE to 2135 CE, which is indeed 25 years before 2160 CE. <_<


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She has little reason to lie to him about the circumstances, especially since he's revealed that they've had part of the Umiak picture of what happened from the Orgus.


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...She's so pretty with her dark long hair and violent eyes! :)



I think you mean violet eyes. I doubt her eyes can beat someone up. :D


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sunphoenix wrote:
There.

To all you nay-sayers out there! :)

The "evil spying assassin of a geneocidal race", has answered with a surprisingly, to some that is, candid and honest answer to the burning question about the supposed Loroi aggression against any and all races that come within their Farseer 'sights'!

My position of supporting that the Loroi are NOT a 'viciously savage, and expansionist race bent on galactic conquest' ... is now somewhat more justified. Tempo never said they were not entirely without blame... but that whatever happened.. it was clear the Umiak were planning to attack long before the alleged incident that they responded to with total warfront invasion! Not the actions of an aggrieved innocent political party in the least!!!

...She's so pretty with her dark long hair and violent eyes! :)


Interesting although its time for this as well, god help humaniti we have 30 ships all of them are outdated, out gunned, and we won't last a day at best. In all doom and foreboding doom has never been more sexy.

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Zakharra wrote:
sunphoenix wrote:
...She's so pretty with her dark long hair and violent eyes! :)



I think you mean violet eyes. I doubt her eyes can beat someone up. :D


{Snicker}.. it seems my auto-word completion strikes again.. wish I knew how to turn that off. :)

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Arioch wrote:
Carl Miller wrote:
1827 is decimal, right?

The Standard Year of Unification is counted in standard years (based on the Perrein year, 0.7033 Earth years) since the Deinar scouts first arrived at Perrein in 850 CE.


Ah? Would have thought the 'standard' would've been derived from Deinar's year, since its the most powerful member of the early Loroi confederation.

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GeoModder wrote:
Arioch wrote:
Carl Miller wrote:
1827 is decimal, right?

The Standard Year of Unification is counted in standard years (based on the Perrein year, 0.7033 Earth years) since the Deinar scouts first arrived at Perrein in 850 CE.


Ah? Would have thought the 'standard' would've been derived from Deinar's year, since its the most powerful member of the early Loroi confederation.

Perhaps even the Loroi understand the concept of compromise :)


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The official calendar would be an easy concession, because each planet mostly uses its own calendar anyway. I think there's a limited degree to which a multi-planet civilization can really standardize on the same calendar, especially when each planet has its own long history.

But notice that in this case the speaker is from Perrein. :D

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standard years (based on the Perrein year, 0.7033 Earth years)


How long is a standard/Perreiner day? and what does the standard/Perreiner calendar look like?

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Zakharra wrote:
sunphoenix wrote:
...She's so pretty with her dark long hair and violent eyes! :)


I think you mean violet eyes. I doubt her eyes can beat someone up. :D

No, they give burns.

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bunnyboy wrote:
Zakharra wrote:
sunphoenix wrote:
...She's so pretty with her dark long hair and violent eyes! :)


I think you mean violet eyes. I doubt her eyes can beat someone up. :D

No, they give burns.



Sultry burns! Honestly though, Arioch, you have done excellent work on Tempo. she talks more with her eyes than most people do with their mouths and body language.


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Carl Miller wrote:
Arioch wrote:
standard years (based on the Perrein year, 0.7033 Earth years)

How long is a standard/Perreiner day? and what does the standard/Perreiner calendar look like?


As mentioned in the Loroi Q&A thread, the standard day is 26.09 Earth hours. Perrein doesn't have any moons or seasons, so the official calendar is very straightforward, listing the year and number of days since the start of the year.

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Not even administratively? I, at least, think it would make sense to divide Perrein's year into 29 eight-tibos "weeks" (and four or five more days). *shrug*

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But notice that in this case the speaker is from Perrein. :D


Totally overlooked that. :lol:

Now, I wonder if, in case she 'graduated' there, Beryl would make cheeky additions with Mezan's year.

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