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Am I the only one that would like to see the pilot, or the navigator, get a little fresh with Alex? There is the whole issue of mails being rare among the Lori, and the lonely soldier/sailor that's been away from home...


Or maybe Alex's non Loroi features (specially lack of telepathy) actually induce an Uncanny Valley effect on the Loroi.
I think the author wants to avoid the "Space Amazon wants Earth men" clique.


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I definately think that Loroi are more attractive to humans then humans are to Loroi.

It'd only make sense, we "miss" something extremely important for social development purposes, from their perspective. From our perspective, they are just aloof, telepathic space amazon elves.

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I definately think that Loroi are more attractive to humans then humans are to Loroi.

It'd only make sense, we "miss" something extremely important for social development purposes, from their perspective. From our perspective, they are just aloof, telepathic space amazon elves.


At least until they find out Why an alien species that looks so similar to them is totally Anti-Telepathic.
That CANNOT be coincidental.. not in the grand-scheme of cosmic probability!

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With that said: The physical similarities between human and loroi is just too high. The likelyhood of that close physical match without a really similar DNA sequence is just too improbable.

We've seen aliens here that are very much alien.

Enough difference to not be compatible? Sure. But "Not even genetically related"? I don't buy it -- "it seems that the biology is similar".
The general suspicion is that the Loroi were genetically engineered: several other organisms that share their biochemistry are openly accepted to have been engineered.

Humans and Loroi do not, incidentally, share the same biochemical setup: Loroi are blue because their blood uses haemocyanin (or something similar) instead of haemoglobin. Cellular structures are presumably physically similar, but at the very least the "extended genome" would be different, and they might use a DNA equivalent instead of actual DNA.


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Roeben wrote:
I definately think that Loroi are more attractive to humans then humans are to Loroi.

It'd only make sense, we "miss" something extremely important for social development purposes, from their perspective. From our perspective, they are just aloof, telepathic space amazon elves.



Even on the purely physical side, Loroi and Human women are pretty much exactly the same size/shape, so no problems there for Human or Loroi men.

Human and Loroi men, on the other hand, are considerably different from each other in height, muscle mass, and possibly hairiness. This greater degree of difference from what they are used to would probably throw off women of both species. To Human women, Loroi men are built like tween boys, and to Loroi women, human men are brutish hulks.


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There is always Supernormal stimulus. If applicable of course.

What exactly makes Loroi females attracted to their males?
In human females being attracted to men its very broadly confidence/physique/popularity (Yes, I summarised entire human sexuality in three words. Bear with me).
And in Loroi? Even if their males are generally shorter, it would still make sense for them to be attracted to tall males (just like human males are generally attracted to tall females), since tallness is sign of health. Same with muscles. Well toened body will make woman more rather than less attractive (depending on guy), as its symptom of health.
Okay, so Alex being tall would not probably put most Loroi off (in itself), neither having more muscles than prepubescent boy, since he's generic healthy rather than professional body-builder.

Colour of skin. Green skinned space babes, pink skinned space men... whatever. I think audience of this comic would not find the idea of being attracted despite/because of weird pigmentation preposterous, so I'll leave it at that.

Lack of telepathy. That might be a downer. Like dating blind/deaf/mute person. Perfectly normal for satisfying relationship, but a sign of "possibly something wrong with their genes", so it could be an immediate put-off.

Gender rarity. Loroi males are relatively rare, and opportunity for access to one is something to not waste. Emergency tends to lower ones standards.

So, yeah. If there was no pressing need in whomever created Loroi from basic hominids to fundamentally change what they find sexually attractive, it would make sense for some human males to be attractive to some Loroi females at some times.

edit: I occurred to me now that I should post it in question-thread. I swear, in my mind, I visualised this post as one sentence commentary.


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An important factor to consider is that human females tend to be choosy, because of the high cost of pregnancy and the fact that there are usually a lot of males trying to get in their pants. Human males have their own standards, but tend to be less fastidious about casual partners, as sex has little or no cost for them. Human female orgasms (which aid in fertilization odds) tend to be harder to achieve than human male orgasms, so that the female is more likely to be impregnated by the male she really likes (instead of whoever happens to stick his apparatus in there).

For Loroi females, the cost of pregnancy is still high, but opportunities are few and far between. Loroi females are usually not allowed to choose their partners, and so will more or less have to mate with the make in front of her whether she likes him or not. So while Loroi do value beauty, and tastes will vary (and fortunately most Loroi are reasonably attractive), it's not advantageous for Loroi females to be overly picky as to the looks of her mates.

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To Human women, Loroi men are built like tween boys.


you would be surprised how much Human women wouldnt care about that point. Just think about twilight. something that supposed to be strong but is actually sucking more D*** than blood... and yet.... how the hell did that even get popular....

Am not saying it would fit the ideal of every women on earth, but if we are to say around 30-40% Human women would find Loroi male appearance pleasing, i dont thing that would be an exaggerated estimate


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JQBogus wrote:
To Human women, Loroi men are built like tween boys.


you would be surprised how much Human women wouldnt care about that point. Just think about twilight. something that supposed to be strong but is actually sucking more D*** than blood... and yet.... how the hell did that even get popular....

Am not saying it would fit the ideal of every women on earth, but if we are to say around 30-40% Human women would find Loroi male appearance pleasing, i dont thing that would be an exaggerated estimate


Twilight's success doesn't revolve around it's 'men' but rather who the female MC is a fantasy of; its whole basis is the standard fairy tail formula where the ordinary little girl is elevated to the center of romantic attention of successful men.

Change successful men, with nobles or sparklying immortal vampires who don't hurt others and you will get the idea.

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Change successful men, with nobles or sparklying immortal vampires who don't hurt others and you will get the idea.


I so despises vampires that "don't hurt others". Have some pride, do your job and such blood dammit! :twisted: Weaklings, that should be kicked from the international vampire community they are. ;)


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dragoongfa wrote:
Change successful men, with nobles or sparklying immortal vampires who don't hurt others and you will get the idea.


I so despises vampires that "don't hurt others". Have some pride, do your job and such blood dammit! :twisted: Weaklings, that should be kicked from the international vampire community they are. ;)

It does kind of defeat the whole point of being a vampire. If being superpowered and immortal has no downside, why wouldn't everyone want to join the vampire ranks?

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Arioch wrote:
Sweforce wrote:
dragoongfa wrote:
Change successful men, with nobles or sparklying immortal vampires who don't hurt others and you will get the idea.


I so despises vampires that "don't hurt others". Have some pride, do your job and such blood dammit! :twisted: Weaklings, that should be kicked from the international vampire community they are. ;)

It does kind of defeat the whole point of being a vampire. If being superpowered and immortal has no downside, why wouldn't everyone want to join the vampire ranks?


And it spread. Skyrim have mods that take away the sundamage vampires get when going outside in the daytime. In comparison, in Neverwinter Night 2, when playing a drow I refused to take the "daylight adaption" perk and played with penalties during daytime. Still npc's was way to accepting of a drow player characters. No hostility? No problem at all? A few comments but really the only people even mildly disliking me was evil types. Sorry but for most people in the Forgotten Realms a drow is like a person in full SS uniform in Jerusalem, people will notice that and probably be less then hospitable to such a person. Well the local jail will probably be hospitable.


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Karst45 wrote:
JQBogus wrote:
To Human women, Loroi men are built like tween boys.


you would be surprised how much Human women wouldnt care about that point. Just think about twilight. something that supposed to be strong but is actually sucking more D*** than blood... and yet.... how the hell did that even get popular....
Few actual readers, + reading like an angsty teenage Livejournal turned into a book (disclaimer: I never managed to make it past the first page, because it seemed very steeped in this) = profit. My sisters figured that it was good that some more people had been induced to actually open a book for once.

Also, as I best recall, romance books are actually the highest-selling genre of all.


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Arioch wrote:
Sweforce wrote:
dragoongfa wrote:
Change successful men, with nobles or sparklying immortal vampires who don't hurt others and you will get the idea.


I so despises vampires that "don't hurt others". Have some pride, do your job and such blood dammit! :twisted: Weaklings, that should be kicked from the international vampire community they are. ;)

It does kind of defeat the whole point of being a vampire. If being superpowered and immortal has no downside, why wouldn't everyone want to join the vampire ranks?


If everyone is a vampire how do you feed?

as with anything, if there a shortage in important (vital) ressources, people will fight over it.
but in twilight case, it because people dont want to be immortal depressive "emo" you want to end your life but hey! your immortal!

p.s. why oh why did i start a conversation about sparkling vampire....


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At least in Anne Rise's vampire sagas the horror of what they need to do to exist and the loneliness of it all is driven home that you can indeed understand that Vampires are cursed and damned in all respects!

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Karst45 wrote:
If everyone is a vampire how do you feed?

as with anything, if there a shortage in important (vital) ressources, people will fight over it.
but in twilight case, it because people dont want to be immortal depressive "emo" you want to end your life but hey! your immortal!

p.s. why oh why did i start a conversation about sparkling vampire....


Daybreakers show us a world where 95% of the population have turned vampire. Let's just say that the remaining humans that are supposed to provide them with the blood to feed them have it harsh.
http://www.imdb.com/title/tt0433362/


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Sweforce wrote:
Karst45 wrote:
If everyone is a vampire how do you feed?

as with anything, if there a shortage in important (vital) ressources, people will fight over it.
but in twilight case, it because people dont want to be immortal depressive "emo" you want to end your life but hey! your immortal!

p.s. why oh why did i start a conversation about sparkling vampire....


Daybreakers show us a world where 95% of the population have turned vampire. Let's just say that the remaining humans that are supposed to provide them with the blood to feed them have it harsh.
http://www.imdb.com/title/tt0433362/


ill try to look it up


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What exactly makes Loroi females attracted to their males?


beauty is in the eye of the beholder! maybe the smallest is most attractive? easier to protect


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What exactly makes Loroi females attracted to their males?


beauty is in the eye of the beholder! maybe the smallest is most attractive? easier to protect



i say rarity. Why you want diamond?

if every stone on earth were a diamond... would you try to get those?

and am speaking of Uncut/polished stone.


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i say rarity. Why you want diamond?

if every stone on earth were a diamond... would you try to get those?



well...yeah...definitely a consideration....but not always.....albinos are rare but I have not seen any on magazine covers (no offense to any albinos out there)


edit: I stand corrected
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hi hi

When it comes to humans anyways, familiarity is much more important in determining attractiveness than uniqueness.


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i say rarity. Why you want diamond?

if every stone on earth were a diamond... would you try to get those?



well...yeah...definitely a consideration....but not always.....albinos are rare but I have not seen any on magazine covers (no offense to any albinos out there)


because they melt when exposed to bright light :D

but if there no such trend it mostly because albinos is associated with a genetic "disabling" problem. So that undesirable trait overshadow the "exotic and rarity"


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