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Now that I think about it, Tempo may be sending a message to a Farseer. Due to broadcast strength, Farseers mostly get used for reception, and Mizol for send (because Mizol can "tune" to specific listeners).


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interesting idea. I thought that range was limited and that's why they use trade speak in battle?


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Signal strength seems to be the limiting factor, not range. Which is where the Farseers come in: they are more powerful telepaths in all ways, and thus can sense/hear/etc. from a farther range (hence "Farseer"), in addition to broadcasting over a further range.

And the reason for Trade in battle is that telepathy use weakens their resistance to telepathic attacks (and possibly tactical issues as well).


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or maybe Tempo IS a Farseer?


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Actually its both range and signal strength, Loroi cannot 'send' to someone they are not in range to detect while the amplified sendings of farseers are too strong to be used at will.

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or maybe Tempo IS a Farseer?


Tempo isn't Farseer because Loroi F. isolated from in special-caste and IIRC aren't military caste also.

By the way, an interesting thought: if the detection range for active psionic send much wider of detection range of a reasonable, then F., trained to detect any Umiak are able to detect an active psionic talker at times more distance.


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Tamri wrote:
thicket wrote:
or maybe Tempo IS a Farseer?


Tempo isn't Farseer because Loroi F. isolated from in special-caste and IIRC aren't military caste also.

By the way, an interesting thought: if the detection range for active psionic send much wider of detection range of a reasonable, then F., trained to detect any Umiak are able to detect an active psionic talker at times more distance.


Unless the active telepath is 'hidden' by being in the midst of several millions or billions of aliens is my wager.

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Unless the active telepath is 'hidden' by being in the midst of several millions or billions of aliens is my wager.


Only in the event that the environment will be at least half as well viewed. Because otherwise psionicist relatively inert (with respect to psycho-background) encirclement will stand out for a distant observer as a boil on his ass. Especially when compared using the ratio of the average Loroi in a passive mode feels reasonable for a dozen meters, and actively "sounding" tribeswoman - hundreds.


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Tamri wrote:
dragoongfa wrote:
Unless the active telepath is 'hidden' by being in the midst of several millions or billions of aliens is my wager.


Only in the event that the environment will be at least half as well viewed. Because otherwise psionicist relatively inert (with respect to psycho-background) encirclement will stand out for a distant observer as a boil on his ass. Especially when compared using the ratio of the average Loroi in a passive mode feels reasonable for a dozen meters, and actively "sounding" tribeswoman - hundreds.


The numbers should work inversely though, 1 active telepath being amidst millions or billions of others shouldn't stand out like a beacon.

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dragoongfa wrote:
The numbers should work inversely though, 1 active telepath being amidst millions or billions of others shouldn't stand out like a beacon.


Psionic can "get lost in the crowd" only at a distance, where the "crowd" can be seen - and then farther, the more reasonable become noise, and then completely disappear from sight. Well, kind of like if a kilometer to look at the searchlight surrounded by a multitude of candles. Candles will distort the image of searchlight. But with ten kilometers have candles will be lost on the background of the searchlight.


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I think that at this point its up to Arioch to answer this.

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I think that at this point its up to Arioch to answer this.

I'm sorry, what's the question?

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Long story short:

Considering what you said about how telepathically inactive Loroi are harder to telepathically detect than an active one (a dozen meters iirc) would that make a telepathically active Loroi stand out in interstellar distances among alien populations?

Which brings the next question, does the dozen meter rule apply to aliens as well? On average that is, since aliens have varying degrees of telepathic susceptibility.

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dragoongfa wrote:
Considering what you said about how telepathically inactive Loroi are harder to telepathically detect than an active one (a dozen meters iirc) would that make a telepathically active Loroi stand out in interstellar distances among alien populations?

Not unless she was really telepathically active, as in sending with an amplifier.

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Which brings the next question, does the dozen meter rule apply to aliens as well? On average that is, since aliens have varying degrees of telepathic susceptibility.

Yes, but it also varies with the sensitivity of the Loroi.

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I take it then that telepathic specialist castes (Teidar, Mizol and etc) have as a rule of thumb far greater sensitivity through a combination of training and amplifiers?

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dragoongfa wrote:
I take it then that telepathic specialist castes (Teidar, Mizol and etc) have as a rule of thumb far greater sensitivity through a combination of training and amplifiers?

Inherent telepathic power varies by individual, and base sensitivity is equal to base power. Mizol tend to have high base power, and so they also have high base sensitivity. Mizol do not normally use telepathic amplifiers.

Teidar do use portable amplifiers that increase telepathic output, but which do not increase sensitivity. So a typical Teidar is not much more sensitive that most ordinary Loroi.

Some Loroi have especially high sensitivity for their power, and these are the sort of individuals who might be employed as Seers and Farseers (Timadi and Bistimadi). Sensitivity can also be artificially increased in a number of ways, including drugs and large room-sized passive amplification chambers.

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Damn, there goes my shuttle load of Teidar boarding tactic :P

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And just to cover the last question I recall:
Do Loroi normally have an inherent range, or is it related to a combination of the telepathic "send" strength, telepathic noise, distance, and telepathic "receive" sensitivity?


Seers are a different caste? What do they tend to do? Are they a quasi-military caste like the Farseers, or something else?


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IIRC it was around 100 meters.

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Absalom wrote:
is it related to a combination of the telepathic "send" strength, telepathic noise, distance, and telepathic "receive" sensitivity?

Yes. Under a nominal condition it's about 100 meters, but can vary substantially.

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Seers are a different caste? What do they tend to do? Are they a quasi-military caste like the Farseers, or something else?

Seers are usually male members of the Nedatan philosopher order, and use their abilities to monitor the well-being of Loroi populations.

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