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sunphoenix wrote:

Sweforce wrote:

Carl Miller wrote:Once the timeframe gets to be about 10-15 years after first contact someone should play a loroi born and raised by humans on Earth

I had this idea of an loroi immigrant that pump her son full of varioues growth hormones and testosterone equivelents in order to turn him not only a mere male but a man. He is still a bit short by human standards huge in comparison to other loroi males. He also have a human name and a human foster father that raised him in a manly way. Anyone interested in picking him up?

Sure I'd roll with that.. Though there needs to be a good story-wise reason why she would do this and how she would get away with it... as the Loroi might consider that 'child-abuse'!

Growing up on earth, this would be done to avoid lot's of abuse. Kids can be mean to each other. He would still have blue skin thou.

Sweforce wrote:Growing up on earth, this would be done to avoid lot's of abuse. Kids can be mean to each other. He would still have blue skin thou.

I kind of feel the need to point out that pumping your kid full of what amounts to anabolic steroids would qualify as being mega abuse. Of the "get your kid taken away from you" kind. Also, I don't think testoterone would do a goddamn thing to Loroi, or else would do something really bad to them.
It's called departments of child services; we actually have them, and by the 2100s, I expect they're actually worth a good goddamn, and would be efficacious at curbing bullying and such.

Plus, other Loroi would be horrified by that. Like, to the tune of "murderously angry." What you're proposing is literally parallel to a big beefy lumberjack motherfucker pumping his pretty princess daughter full of steroids and taking her to the gym to make her lift so she can beat face with the guys.

ShadowDragon8685 wrote:

Sweforce wrote:Growing up on earth, this would be done to avoid lot's of abuse. Kids can be mean to each other. He would still have blue skin thou.

I kind of feel the need to point out that pumping your kid full of what amounts to anabolic steroids would qualify as being mega abuse. Of the "get your kid taken away from you" kind. Also, I don't think testoterone would do a goddamn thing to Loroi, or else would do something really bad to them.
It's called departments of child services; we actually have them, and by the 2100s, I expect they're actually worth a good goddamn, and would be efficacious at curbing bullying and such.

Plus, other Loroi would be horrified by that. Like, to the tune of "murderously angry." What you're proposing is literally parallel to a big beefy lumberjack motherfucker pumping his pretty princess daughter full of steroids and taking her to the gym to make her lift so she can beat face with the guys.

Perhaps but the the testosterone thing was meant as "equivalent" and already there are treatments for stunted growth. ANyway it was just that wierd idea that popped up in my head.

Sweforce wrote:Perhaps but the the testosterone thing was meant as "equivalent" and already there are treatments for stunted growth. ANyway it was just that wierd idea that popped up in my head.

For what it's worth, it's no more nonsensical than trying to roll a Human/Loroi Hybrid without intending "horrible crime of the dark sciences" to be a character trait. Also no less nonsensical than the same.

Really, I'm a little surprised at the uproar. Maybe you would have done better with a female super-Loroi whose mother hoped she would be better able to spread the light of Loroi civilization to the misproportioned savages.

Do not pump any characters full of roids, please.

Also remember that said loroi raised by humans could be female

Carl Miller wrote:Do not pump any characters full of roids, please.

Also remember that said loroi raised by humans could be female

I do not intend to play this myself. It was interned as an alternative to a male halfbreed. I believe that going out adventuring with a traditional male loroi would be a bit difficult. Halfbreeds are odd. Raised in another culture is a totally different matter. Still even such a person can know a lot of traditional values. In Star Trek Next Generation Worf is a Klingon raised by humans. Worf kom a lot of Klingon culture, probably more then most Klingon and his foster parents are supportive of his quest to learn Klingon ways. This place him "in between" worlds but he is, 100% genetically Klingon.

Sweforce wrote:

Carl Miller wrote:Do not pump any characters full of roids, please.

Also remember that said loroi raised by humans could be female

I do not intend to play this myself. It was interned as an alternative to a male halfbreed. I believe that going out adventuring with a traditional male loroi would be a bit difficult. Halfbreeds are odd. Raised in another culture is a totally different matter. Still even such a person can know a lot of traditional values. In Star Trek Next Generation Worf is a Klingon raised by humans. Worf kom a lot of Klingon culture, probably more then most Klingon and his foster parents are supportive of his quest to learn Klingon ways. This place him "in between" worlds but he is, 100% genetically Klingon.

Yes, but Worf's son, Alexander Rozhenko, is 1/4th human. His mother, K'Ehleyr, is 1/2 Human, 1/2 Klingon.

As for going out adventuring with a male Loroi, it would be kind of a challenge. The same way that, say, going out adventuring with a woman in the group in 1885 would have been.
It can be done. It can especially highlight cultural differences, if you have the Loroiboi raised by humans in the human part of the party, and a bunch of Loroi females who are absolutely terrified at the idea of him coming to harm, and completely dismissive of the idea that he could contribute meaningfully.

And in a fight, unless he's a TK, he can contribute...
Well, frankly, he'd be pretty good in a skirmish, because he'd present the smallest target around, and that wouldn't meaningfully impact his ability to use a rifle.

More importantly, it's entirely likely that Loroiboi, or Lorboi for short, has some kind of skills that are quite useful. After all, the TCA can certainly dig up a whole shitload of rifle-carriers to throw at this kind of thing, and as it's based on meritocratic recruitment and advancement, he'd have to have something really hot in the brainspace going for him to get assigned the post.

Or, maybe due to a shipboard radiation accident, he's sterile/damaged goods and effectively useless to the others except as some diplomatic token.

ShadowDragon8685 wrote: Loroiboi, or Lorboi for short,

I've been reading Loriboi for short....

Sure. I'll play the feisty Loroi male who decided to go against tradition and schemed a way to escape the overprotective Females and seek his fortune and adventure among the stars. After all he is not a SLAVE is he? So if he decides I want to go here .. and do what I want... yes his Loroi sisters will frown on his irresponsibility... but will they actually incarcerate him if he demands his freedom?

So I'll play a young Loroi male named 'Amber-Eyes'... who was part of an evacuation of a boarder world in the Union that human marines aided in helping with while the Union fleet and the earth ships helped fight a Hegemony incursion. And simply due to the chaotic evacuation, misfortunes and the rapid retreat as the main fleet enguaged... Amber-Eyes ended up spending several months on board the marine ship with other refugees and learned that Men could be warriors too! And thus a wonderlust for adventures and action was awaken in him and when the Loroi finally got to them.... he forced the issue asking asylum from the TCU to live as a free independent male!

sunphoenix wrote:Sure. I'll play the feisty Loroi male who decided to go against tradition and schemed a way to escape the overprotective Females and seek his fortune and adventure among the stars. After all he is not a SLAVE is he? So if he decides I want to go here .. and do what I want... yes his Loroi sisters will frown on his irresponsibility... but will they actually incarcerate him if he demands his freedom?

So I'll play a young Loroi male named 'Amber-Eyes'... who was part of an evacuation of a boarder world in the Union that human marines aided in helping with while the Union fleet and the earth ships helped fight a Hegemony incursion. And simply due to the chaotic evacuation, misfortunes and the rapid retreat as the main fleet enguaged... Amber-Eyes ended up spending several months on board the marine ship with other refugees and learned that Men could be warriors too! And thus a wonderlust for adventures and action was awaken in him and when the Loroi finally got to them.... he forced the issue asking asylum from the TCU to live as a free independent male!

Hooray! Lorai men's emancipation began!

Tamri wrote:
Hooray! Lorai men's emancipation began!

Lol! Their slogan... "I am More than my Gametes!"

sunphoenix wrote:Sure. I'll play the feisty Loroi male who decided to go against tradition and schemed a way to escape the overprotective Females and seek his fortune and adventure among the stars. After all he is not a SLAVE is he? So if he decides I want to go here .. and do what I want... yes his Loroi sisters will frown on his irresponsibility... but will they actually incarcerate him if he demands his freedom?

So I'll play a young Loroi male named 'Amber-Eyes'... who was part of an evacuation of a boarder world in the Union that human marines aided in helping with while the Union fleet and the earth ships helped fight a Hegemony incursion. And simply due to the chaotic evacuation, misfortunes and the rapid retreat as the main fleet enguaged... Amber-Eyes ended up spending several months on board the marine ship with other refugees and learned that Men could be warriors too! And thus a wonderlust for adventures and action was awaken in him and when the Loroi finally got to them.... he forced the issue asking asylum from the TCU to live as a free independent male!

Given that this would be a major diplomatic incident, he's going to be the local commander's least favorite station resident. People don't tend to like people who bring them trouble, and asylum would only need to be granted if the commander thought that there were legitimate reasons: asylum is not an immigration procedure, it is a balm to genuine and serious mistreatment or danger with an irrevocable political overtone, directly equivalent to accusing those being fled from of committing a crime. For reference, most Iranians, Russians, and Continental Chinese would probably not be granted asylum by the US even if allowed to stay for a while, despite all three theoretically being enemies or rivals, due to a lack of genuine reason: dissatisfaction isn't enough. North Koreans, in comparison, probably would because of the materially different treatment prompted by either the attempt to obtain asylum, or even living in North Korea if not part of the upper ranks.

I advise you to revise this scenario until it actually makes sense, because what you've described would certainly not be compelling grounds for granting asylum, and if the commander dared to grant it anyways then the TCA would strip the commander of their position and send the asylumee back as soon as word got back to Human space: government representatives do not play such large games on the international stage and survive their own side without major legitimate justification, and in the TCA's current state it would have to be very major indeed.

sunphoenix wrote:Sure. I'll play the feisty Loroi male who decided to go against tradition and schemed a way to escape the overprotective Females and seek his fortune and adventure among the stars. After all he is not a SLAVE is he? So if he decides I want to go here .. and do what I want... yes his Loroi sisters will frown on his irresponsibility... but will they actually incarcerate him if he demands his freedom?

So I'll play a young Loroi male named 'Amber-Eyes'... who was part of an evacuation of a boarder world in the Union that human marines aided in helping with while the Union fleet and the earth ships helped fight a Hegemony incursion. And simply due to the chaotic evacuation, misfortunes and the rapid retreat as the main fleet enguaged... Amber-Eyes ended up spending several months on board the marine ship with other refugees and learned that Men could be warriors too! And thus a wonderlust for adventures and action was awaken in him and when the Loroi finally got to them.... he forced the issue asking asylum from the TCU to live as a free independent male!

According to Humanity in 2160, the TCA has not yet subsumed the sovereign states of Earth, so he would have to forum-shop for asylum.

So, out of curiosity, is this idea still going, is anyone still interested in it, or what?

I am interested, depending on the medium.

ShadowDragon8685 wrote:So, out of curiosity, is this idea still going, is anyone still interested in it, or what?

I hope so. The idea is to have a station similar to to the one in Star Trek Deep Space 9 (thou probably smaller) for social interaction. Some people are taking it to serious thou making it a bit hard getting started.

Well the only thing I would change about my Loroi male character was that he doesn't have to flee to humanity to find his independence. He's got money and skills of his own.. and he just flat out TOOK his independence! He got about his civilian ship and took a flight to human-space ignoring the protects of the females and asked, "Am I a prisoner? Have I committed a crime? If no then you have no right to control where I go or what I do." Of course No female would expect a male to do something so bold as to leave home and go off on his own to live among strange aliens. He just told them what they thought they wanted to hear and all it took was a little manipulation and a little misinformation for them to assume.. no male has the "guts" to do anything so radical, so BOLD... and before his 'sisters' knew it he was armed, armored and leaving Loroi-space to take up residence on the human station as a independent citizen. As an added safeguard to his independence he enlisting in the TCA Station security as a Loroi-specialist liaison in Security.

Count me in. I'll give it a try even if my english is far from perfect.

Sweforce wrote:

ShadowDragon8685 wrote:So, out of curiosity, is this idea still going, is anyone still interested in it, or what?

I hope so. The idea is to have a station similar to to the one in Star Trek Deep Space 9 (thou probably smaller) for social interaction. Some people are taking it to serious thou making it a bit hard getting started.

If you really want to start it, then you already have enough buy-in. The only way to move it further than it has been is to post the first bit of the RP.