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Re: Page 117: I will demonstrate!

Posted: Thu Jun 15, 2017 12:42 am
by Galactic Scholar
And telling them to rebel would have gotten them killed.
With that, we're done Absalom.

Disgusting. Absolutely revolting.

Re: Page 117: I will demonstrate!

Posted: Thu Jun 15, 2017 7:22 am
by Krulle
But he is right in this regard.
Many slaves have been severly punished for listening to sermons that propagate freedom of every single person.
(And slaves were killed for that, just as an example for the other slaves to NOT listen to those sermons.)

Everywhere, worldwide, anytime.
Many slave owners wanted to control the thoughts of the slaves, and "freedom" or "equalness" did, in their opinion, have no place in the thoughts of a servant/slave.

We Humans are the most savage race we know of. Things we do, despite knowing that they are wrong, not wanting to be treated the same way we still do it to others. Our moral compases may be alright, but when doing something we often forget to reflect how others/the other side might view our actions.

[edit]removed some more controversial discussion elements regarding slavery in Rome[/edit]

Re: Page 117: I will demonstrate!

Posted: Thu Jun 15, 2017 10:42 am
by Galactic Scholar
But he is right in this regard.
Except that we’re not talking about the state of slavery, we’re discussing good advice that an all powerful, all knowing, all seeing, omnipresent God can give to slaves. The ONLY advice you can give to slaves is to get out. And if they can? Hit them on the way out. And if getting out isn’t an option? Take as many of them with you as possible.

Or maybe since he’s God, he can just tell people not to own slaves? How hard is that?

Re: Page 117: I will demonstrate!

Posted: Thu Jun 15, 2017 12:08 pm
by CF2
Galactic Scholar wrote:Except that we’re not talking about the state of slavery, we’re discussing good advice that an all powerful, all knowing, all seeing, omnipresent God can give to slaves.
Actually what we're really talking about is the likelihood of the Loroi deciding to wipe humans from the galaxy after Ensign Jardin shares Earth's location with them. Christianity was only brought up as a simile to emphasize how significant the existence of humanity is to the Loroi. So maybe we can end this wild tangent, even though discussion of religion on the internet has a perfect track record of never being divisive and always ending with all parties convinced of the same fundamental truths.

Re: Page 117: I will demonstrate!

Posted: Thu Jun 15, 2017 5:16 pm
by GeoModder
CF2 wrote: Actually what we're really talking about is the likelihood of the Loroi deciding to wipe humans from the galaxy after Ensign Jardin shares Earth's location with them. Christianity was only brought up as a simile to emphasize how significant the existence of humanity is to the Loroi. So maybe we can end this wild tangent, even though discussion of religion on the internet has a perfect track record of never being divisive and always ending with all parties convinced of the same fundamental truths.
Hear hear.

Btw CF2, am I translating your signature well with "My seniors, please observe"?

Re: Page 117: I will demonstrate!

Posted: Thu Jun 15, 2017 5:23 pm
by GabrielGABFonseca
GeoModder wrote: Btw CF2, am I translating your signature well with "My seniors, please observe"?
That's what I'm reading too. "Senior, attention to me!" or a variant thereof. There's no single good translation to toilal sininra, really - part of the meaning gets lost during translation.

Re: Page 117: I will demonstrate!

Posted: Fri Jun 16, 2017 1:12 am
by Turrosh Mak
GabrielGABFonseca wrote:
GeoModder wrote: Btw CF2, am I translating your signature well with "My seniors, please observe"?
That's what I'm reading too. "Senior, attention to me!" or a variant thereof. There's no single good translation to toilal sininra, really - part of the meaning gets lost during translation.
Notice me, senpai!

edit: ugh, only 3 words and I still misspell one.

Re: Page 117: I will demonstrate!

Posted: Fri Jun 16, 2017 4:20 am
by CF2
Turrosh Mak wrote:
GabrielGABFonseca wrote:
GeoModder wrote: Btw CF2, am I translating your signature well with "My seniors, please observe"?
That's what I'm reading too. "Senior, attention to me!" or a variant thereof. There's no single good translation to toilal sininra, really - part of the meaning gets lost during translation.
Notice me, senpai!

edit: ugh, only 3 words and I still misspell one.
Heh yeah, "Please notice me senpai~" or as close to it as you can get in Loroi Trade, because sadly there is no tilde in their written language.

Re: Page 117: I will demonstrate!

Posted: Sun Jul 02, 2017 1:38 am
by RedDwarfIV
In several Pauline epistles, and the First Epistle of Peter, slaves are admonished to obey their masters, "as to the Lord, and not to men".[88][89][90][91][92] However, masters were told to serve their slaves "in the same way"[93] and "even better" as "brothers",[94] to not threaten them as God is their Master as well.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/The_Bible_and_slavery

So that was Paul saying it, not Jesus.

Paul said a lot of awful things.