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Re: Page: 119

Posted: Thu Jul 06, 2017 11:47 pm
by Arioch
CrimsonFALKE wrote:So would Kikitik be given a battalion to command in battle? I mean he is lucky and skilled given his tactics have probably contributed to his battle group.
Not sure what you mean by a "battalion" in this context; in infantry armies, a battalion is usually smaller than a division. Kikitik-27's fleet at Naam (what we saw of it) was about three divisions (~220 vessels, not including gunboats and other light escorts).

To clarify the unit nomenclature used by the Loroi (and which is also applied to the Umiak to some degree):
  • Squadron: 4-8 vessels. A typical Loroi squadron is 3-4 cruisers and 3-4 destroyers; a typical Umiak squadron is one heavy and 3-5 medium vessels + 2-4 towed escorts.
  • Group: 3-6 squadrons
  • Division: 3-6 groups (typically ~75 vessels)
  • Fleet: a sector fleet or task force, usually of 2 or more divisions

Re: Page: 119

Posted: Fri Jul 07, 2017 1:24 am
by CrimsonFALKE
Arioch wrote:
CrimsonFALKE wrote:So would Kikitik be given a battalion to command in battle? I mean he is lucky and skilled given his tactics have probably contributed to his battle group.
Not sure what you mean by a "battalion" in this context; in infantry armies, a battalion is usually smaller than a division. Kikitik-27's fleet at Naam (what we saw of it) was about three divisions (~220 vessels, not including gunboats and other light escorts).

To clarify the unit nomenclature used by the Loroi (and which is also applied to the Umiak to some degree):
  • Squadron: 4-8 vessels. A typical Loroi squadron is 3-4 cruisers and 3-4 destroyers; a typical Umiak squadron is one heavy and 3-5 medium vessels + 2-4 towed escorts.
  • Group: 3-6 squadrons
  • Division: 3-6 groups (typically ~75 vessels)
  • Fleet: a sector fleet or task force, usually of 2 or more divisions
Well would he be given the forces to make this kind of large scale offensive based on his experience? I take it the little bugger is well known in his own circles or at least to military command he has 2 noted successes of returning successfully. Could he have been speaking of his own upcoming offensive?

Re: Page: 119

Posted: Fri Jul 07, 2017 4:57 am
by Arioch
CrimsonFALKE wrote: Well would he be given the forces to make this kind of large scale offensive based on his experience? I take it the little bugger is well known in his own circles or at least to military command he has 2 noted successes of returning successfully. Could he have been speaking of his own upcoming offensive?
Well, the Umiak have their own brand of internal politics, just as the Loroi do.

Re: Page: 119

Posted: Sat Jul 08, 2017 11:36 pm
by CrimsonFALKE
Arioch wrote:
CrimsonFALKE wrote: Well would he be given the forces to make this kind of large scale offensive based on his experience? I take it the little bugger is well known in his own circles or at least to military command he has 2 noted successes of returning successfully. Could he have been speaking of his own upcoming offensive?
Well, the Umiak have their own brand of internal politics, just as the Loroi do.
I see so he wouldn't be behind this and his mentions of it are him trying to warn the Lori so he can get more commands?

Re: Page: 119

Posted: Sun Jul 09, 2017 2:55 am
by Zakharra
Arioch wrote:
CrimsonFALKE wrote: Well would he be given the forces to make this kind of large scale offensive based on his experience? I take it the little bugger is well known in his own circles or at least to military command he has 2 noted successes of returning successfully. Could he have been speaking of his own upcoming offensive?
Well, the Umiak have their own brand of internal politics, just as the Loroi do.

Heh. Given what little we know about the Umiaks and their tendencies to be very humble, I had an image of the Umiak military commanders and politicians practicing a form of very aggressive humbleness. He (or she) who is the most effective at their job strives to appear the most humble to disguise their ruthlessness.

Re: Page: 119

Posted: Mon Jul 10, 2017 2:30 pm
by CrimsonFALKE
Heh. Given what little we know about the Umiaks and their tendencies to be very humble, I had an image of the Umiak military commanders and politicians practicing a form of very aggressive humbleness. He (or she) who is the most effective at their job strives to appear the most humble to disguise their ruthlessness.
Well i am not sure they would apply their own customs to the enemy. I honestly have to think that the Umiaks would view loroi as sub-Umiak. I know humans tend to dehumanize the enemy to make it easier to kill. My own grandpop who served in WW2 talked about Germans like some sort of animal or insect. Maybe the umiak was being humble and offered up the information as a warning. I am about to slaughter your people if you surrender I will let you all live.