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ShyAndFearful wrote:
p.s. Pardon my English.
p.p.s. And my punctuation (It's a little bit different in Russian)

I just CAN'T WAIT for Beryl to start learning English spelling rules. I'm Russian (Belarussian actually, but it's practically the same thing) so here is how it was for me:
- Wait, why do they have "C" that may sound like "K" or "S" if they already have both these letters in a divided format?! Why do they even have it then?!
- Wait, the "e" isn't spelled if it's in the end of a word?!
- Wait, why the "y" sounds like "ee"? We already have "i" that sounds like "ee"!
- Wait, the "I" pronounced as "ee" in "sin", but as "ai" in "mile"?!
And many, MANY MORE. But it's 1:07 in the morning and I want to sleep.
It's not even the rules that are scary it's how many exceptions to these rules there is.
Long story short: I never learned them! Instead I had to memorize how each word is written and how it's spelled. SEPARATELY. Like I was learning some sort of Chinese characters and not words that are written with alphabet.
This is why I have problems trying to transliterate words.
Even the native speakers didn't know how to pronounce: Loroi or Laroi?
That's even more painful to me, since Russian alphabet, despite it's sounds are hard to pronounce for you, is very univocal when it comes to spelling. Meaning, if you see a letter "i" in a word, it will always sound like "ee". Just like in Trade. So, theoretically, if Beryl wouldn't be a recorder she is, she would have a really hard time just trying to accept the fact that letters don't always sound the same (Just like I did).
Just to dig the thorn in a bit more, many of our words used to have much more reasonable spellings... before the sounds changed. "Knight", for example, gained it's approximate spelling during a period of time when the k and g were actually pronounced, but then the pronunciation changed without the spelling doing the same, so what was "knight" became "niht" (meanwhile, as I understand it William Shakespeare's will spells his name five or six different ways despite being the only pieces of paper that we actually know he physically touched: all known copies of his plays are either unauthorized from-memory copies, or printed after his death).


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Absalom wrote:
Just to dig the thorn in a bit more, many of our words used to have much more reasonable spellings... before the sounds changed. "Knight", for example, gained it's approximate spelling during a period of time when the k and g were actually pronounced, but then the pronunciation changed without the spelling doing the same, so what was "knight" became "niht" (meanwhile, as I understand it William Shakespeare's will spells his name five or six different ways despite being the only pieces of paper that we actually know he physically touched: all known copies of his plays are either unauthorized from-memory copies, or printed after his death).


So, Kinnigits?


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After this Beryl. .we shall move on to Welsh....

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Come to think of it,I wonder what she would make of the fact that humanity has so many languages..


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After this Beryl. .we shall move on to Welsh....

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Come to think of it,I wonder what she would make of the fact that humanity has so many languages..


That humans are a tribal race who has spend most of his history confined to the same planet and only recently expanded to others?


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And that we may still not have a common government....

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That humans are a tribal race who has spend most of his history confined to the same planet and only recently expanded to others?


Well I was thinking more along the lines of it proving humanity was an evolved species instead of a planted one.


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It could also be used to claim that Humanity is a variably-fractious species that goes through cycles of homogenization and heterogenization.


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And that we may still not have a common government....

Mars will rise!


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It could also be used to claim that Humanity is a variably-fractious species that goes through cycles of homogenization and heterogenization.


I wonder if there is anything Humanity may unanimously agree about.


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Absalom wrote:
It could also be used to claim that Humanity is a variably-fractious species that goes through cycles of homogenization and heterogenization.


I wonder if there is anything Humanity may unanimously agree about.


That water is wet?

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dragoongfa wrote:
raistlin34 wrote:
Absalom wrote:
It could also be used to claim that Humanity is a variably-fractious species that goes through cycles of homogenization and heterogenization.


I wonder if there is anything Humanity may unanimously agree about.


That water is wet?
And now I'm picturing a conspiracy theorist shouting that it's a lie...

But yes, only the things that are unassailably true via physical law will be unanimously agreed on. Which is probably good, because the stuff that's mostly unanimous is often where future generations discover us all to be psychopathic dictators.


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Absalom wrote:
dragoongfa wrote:
raistlin34 wrote:
I wonder if there is anything Humanity may unanimously agree about.
That water is wet?
And now I'm picturing a conspiracy theorist shouting that it's a lie...

But yes, only the things that are unassailably true via physical law will be unanimously agreed on. [...]

Earth is flat?

Pretty sure that all physical laws so far have proven that Earth is NOT flat, except maybe as seen from a 5th or 6th dimension...

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But yes, only the things that are unassailably true via physical law will be unanimously agreed on. ]
Earth is flat?


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Pretty sure that all physical laws so far have proven that Earth is NOT flat, except maybe as seen from a 5th or 6th dimension...


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Can water actually be wet, though?


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Krulle wrote:
Absalom wrote:
dragoongfa wrote:
That water is wet?
And now I'm picturing a conspiracy theorist shouting that it's a lie...

But yes, only the things that are unassailably true via physical law will be unanimously agreed on. [...]

Earth is flat?

Pretty sure that all physical laws so far have proven that Earth is NOT flat, except maybe as seen from a 5th or 6th dimension...
Pretty sure that topology theory says that the Earth IS flat... from a certain point of view.


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Absalom wrote:
Pretty sure that topology theory says that the Earth IS flat... from a certain point of view.


You're damn right, Riemann. It's vertical slabs all the way down.


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Absalom wrote:
Pretty sure that topology theory says that the Earth IS flat... from a certain point of view.


You are technically correct; the best kind of correct.


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