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Re: Page 131: The one in which we learn how Loroi swear

Posted: Mon May 14, 2018 4:39 pm
by Suederwind
@Arioch:
Wonderfull page!

Will Highland-7 always get the shitty end of the stick?

Re: Page 131: The one in which we learn how Loroi swear

Posted: Mon May 14, 2018 4:40 pm
by boldilocks
novius wrote:Another thing that puzzles me very much is Ashrain's reference to 'extinct species'. One could argue it away as conjecture on her part, like "SG51 came from Naam, where we all know there is nothing of value beyond - not anymore", or, just to have some sort of justification on the record if there will be questions why she left Highland-7 in a lurch.

Or, and that's a scary thought, for some reason she knows very well who and what Highland-7 is ferrying around and has it on good authority that by all chances humans are to be considered a goner, too.
Or it's an indication of the overall Loroi morale. Ie, "the enemy is about to overrun us all the way back to the sister worlds unless we get the word out."

Re: Page 131: The one in which we learn how Loroi swear

Posted: Mon May 14, 2018 4:43 pm
by cacambo43
novius wrote:Another thing that puzzles me very much is Ashrain's reference to 'extinct species'. One could argue it away as conjecture on her part, like "SG51 came from Naam, where we all know there is nothing of value beyond - not anymore", or, just to have some sort of justification on the record if there will be questions why she left Highland-7 in a lurch.

Or, and that's a scary thought, for some reason she knows very well who and what Highland-7 is ferrying around and has it on good authority that by all chances humans are to be considered a goner, too.
Are you talking about Clearbrook's captain's (not Ashrain's) comment about extinct nations? I think that means the Loroi not needing embassies because they need to get word out and mount a defense right-away or else they are done for. I can see where it might at first sound like she meant Humanity being extinct, but that makes no sense.

CJSF

Re: Page 131: The one in which we learn how Loroi swear

Posted: Mon May 14, 2018 7:21 pm
by Zarya
Something completely different - is Highland-7 swerving to the left?

Re: Page 131: The one in which we learn how Loroi swear

Posted: Mon May 14, 2018 7:25 pm
by entity2636
Chekist_Felix wrote:I predict in next pages Tempo will enter the cabin (maybe even drag Alex to camera) and... "persuaded" Clearbrook.
"Follow your goddamn orders. This is your final warning."
Clearbrook's Captain: "Or what, Mizol Parat?" *cuts comms and jumps*

I had the same thoughts earlier, that it's high time for Tempo to appear and at least comment somehow on the situation developing, or talk to Clearbrook's Captain, but on second thought there's nothing she can do to reinforce her orders. Clearbrook will jump out and the shuttle will be Left 4 Dead together with the rest of SG51.

Indeed the Captain doesn't fear court martial at this point. From her perspective there will be noone left to bring her before a court martial for disobeying orders, or even if they do, she'll likely get a medal for warning Seren. Talon, on the other hand, for openly insulting a superior officer like that, would be looking at a court martial. If she survives, that is.

Re: Page 131: The one in which we learn how Loroi swear

Posted: Mon May 14, 2018 7:27 pm
by entity2636
Zarya wrote:Something completely different - is Highland-7 swerving to the left?
Looks like it. Looks to me like they might be trying to reach the Azimol or Enedd jump zones.

Re: Page 131: The one in which we learn how Loroi swear

Posted: Mon May 14, 2018 7:35 pm
by Luge
I like that Clearbrook addressed Talon by rank (Arrir). That's definitely a movie moment there.

"You have your orders Lieutenant."

"Damn you, sir!"

L.

Re: Page 131: The one in which we learn how Loroi swear

Posted: Mon May 14, 2018 8:02 pm
by icekatze
hi hi
I would tell you to grow up, but it looks as if you will never get that chance.
Daayum! That is coooold, not even a word of regret. Sorry Talon, as much as I like you, you are out of your league with the Clearbrook's captain here. That was a high quality insult right there.
Zarya wrote:Something completely different - is Highland-7 swerving to the left?
I'm not sure if they have a destination in mind, or if they have the fuel left to reach anywhere else. I suspect that will come up soon, but at the very least, they need to get away from the jump point. The Umiak are going to be suppressing the jump point very soon. It might not make a difference in the end, but having the Umiak dispatch a fraction of their suppression division to hunt down the shuttle is a smaller problem than dealing with the entire two plus divisions at the jump point.

Re: Page 131: The one in which we learn how Loroi swear

Posted: Mon May 14, 2018 8:03 pm
by novius
cacambo43 wrote:Are you talking about Clearbrook's captain's (not Ashrain's) comment about extinct nations? I think that means the Loroi not needing embassies because they need to get word out and mount a defense right-away or else they are done for. I can see where it might at first sound like she meant Humanity being extinct, but that makes no sense.

CJSF
My bad, definitely mixed up those two. But still, there is a number of diverse species in the Loroi Union and its allies, so ferrying around diplomats from one of those species should be commonplace. Especially on routes which were deemed to be safe. So said captain assuming the unspecified envoy to be from an already extinct species is ... a bit odd.

Re: Page 131: The one in which we learn how Loroi swear

Posted: Mon May 14, 2018 8:15 pm
by novius
icekatze wrote:I'm not sure if they have a destination in mind, or if they have the fuel left to reach anywhere else. I suspect that will come up soon, but at the very least, they need to get away from the jump point. The Umiak are going to be suppressing the jump point very soon. It might not make a difference in the end, but having the Umiak dispatch a fraction of their suppression division to hunt down the shuttle is a smaller problem than dealing with the entire two plus divisions at the jump point.
They are changing course, it seems. A smart thing to do would be to do just that, and then going dark. Conserve fuel, reduce emissions, hope not to be seen until the dust settles. Perhaps coast towards one of the other depots - maybe to slip past enemy lines and refuel, or try to commandeer an Umiak vessel.

Even if they reach one of the jump points - what then? Judging from the Loroi ship classes only corvettes and up have jump capabilities - shuttles definitely not. To leave the system they have to switch ships. By any conceivable means.

Re: Page 131: The one in which we learn how Loroi swear

Posted: Mon May 14, 2018 8:15 pm
by fredgiblet
entity2636 wrote:Wonder where she's headed now... For the starbase at the Azimol jump zone?
My money's on "Back to the fleet" since that's where the action is.
Arioch wrote:Nice to see you, fredge! I hope you are well.
I'm doing pretty good. Lot's changed since I was around last, but overall I'm in a, hopefully, upwards trajectory.

Re: Page 131: The one in which we learn how Loroi swear

Posted: Mon May 14, 2018 8:22 pm
by novius
icekatze wrote:hi hi
I would tell you to grow up, but it looks as if you will never get that chance.
Daayum! That is coooold, not even a word of regret. Sorry Talon, as much as I like you, you are out of your league with the Clearbrook's captain here. That was a high quality insult right there.
Maybe Talon will get some cold comfort when one of the deep jump divisions do catch up with the Clearbrook on its way out. The captain did admit they have to make a run for it since said division is hot on their tail.

The fly in the ointment would be no warning coming to Seren, but I'd be sure people would rejoice on that hag getting her desserts :)

Re: Page 131: The one in which we learn how Loroi swear

Posted: Mon May 14, 2018 8:42 pm
by orion1836
For what it's worth, I think Clearbrook's comment on extinct nations is referring to the Loroi. If they get overrun, what need do they have of embassies?

As to the fate of Highland-7, unless they're going to run silent or try to jump on an anchored (or enemy) ship, the Law of Conservation of Characters would point to either Barsam ex Machina (returning Prophet's Reason) or else they'll find some way to link up with Black Razor, though admittedly that is a long shot. Rigai Mozin was sent to Azimol... if he popped up on that vector, it is closer to Alex and company than the Enedd vector where Black Razor is going.

Or who knows? Maybe Stillstorm will cut a swath of bloody destruction across the entire damned system, scoop up the errant shuttle, and conduct a fighting retreat out on the Gora or Azimol vector. Maybe we'll get to see the wave-loom in action against such concentrated Umiak forces.

One can hope.

Oh, and it would be hilarious right now to see a one-panel cutaway to a completely-asleep Tempo.

Re: Page 131: The one in which we learn how Loroi swear

Posted: Mon May 14, 2018 8:49 pm
by cacambo43
orion1836 wrote:For what it's worth, I think Clearbrook's comment on extinct nations is referring to the Loroi. If they get overrun, what need do they have of embassies?
That's what I said.

I hope Talon and Sprial make it, damn it, Arioch!

CJSF

Re: Page 131: The one in which we learn how Loroi swear

Posted: Mon May 14, 2018 9:38 pm
by Zarya
orion1836 wrote:Oh, and it would be hilarious right now to see a one-panel cutaway to a completely-asleep Tempo.
Very plausible, I doubt the lady-warriors in the back are watching the in-flight entertainment system.
Have also set my hope on a Barsam ex Machina, or perhaps some other cloak and dagger opportunity that may arise.

Re: Page 131: The one in which we learn how Loroi swear

Posted: Mon May 14, 2018 10:45 pm
by Random Person
While Talon is understandably upset at her decision, the Clearbrook's captain is making the right call here. Her options here are to make a run for it and probably escape or to pick up Highland-7 and in all likelihood get intercepted and destroyed. Picking up the shuttle carrying a VIP is pointless if you can't escape afterwards, it just results in the VIP dying on your ship when it gets caught rather than dying on the shuttle. At least this way the shuttle has a chance to find an alternate way out of the system.

Anyway, it's not like all the fun folks on the Highland-7 are in danger. Arioch has revealed enough of his plans for the story that, unless what he revealed was quite misleading or his plans changed, what is going to happen is that the shuttle is just going to get picked up by some other Loroi-friendly ship. My guess is the Courier Corvette sitting at the Gora Relay if it hasn't left offscreen (it's presence does kinda undercut the Clearbrook's captain's point about needing to get word of the offensive out).
novius wrote:Maybe Talon will get some cold comfort when one of the deep jump divisions do catch up with the Clearbrook on its way out. The captain did admit they have to make a run for it since said division is hot on their tail.

The fly in the ointment would be no warning coming to Seren, but I'd be sure people would rejoice on that hag getting her desserts :)
Clearbrook getting intercepted and destroyed would just be proving her captain right. If she couldn't escape while fleeing at top speed, she sure as hell wouldn't have been able to escape after making a detour.

Re: Page 131: The one in which we learn how Loroi swear

Posted: Tue May 15, 2018 1:03 am
by CrimsonFALKE
So why is she swearing like eh cockney bint? Most unbecoming of young ladies hmm must have her governess do something about that swearing.

Re: Page 131: The one in which we learn how Loroi swear

Posted: Tue May 15, 2018 3:46 am
by Darroth
So much for the theory of a mental attack.

Considering what characters get focused on in Insider, I predict Talon and Spiral (best girl) will get killed and Ashrain will save the main four. This will also give Alex a meeting with Greywind since Ashrain is related to her.

Re: Page 131: The one in which we learn how Loroi swear

Posted: Tue May 15, 2018 3:46 am
by NOMAD
Oh the Talon's using the full vernacular now, still not waiting for an incoming allied ship . . . reminds me space: above and beyond when the 51st squad gets left behind under an invasion.

Great to see that Loroi can be very emotional.
Arent wrote:
Chekist_Felix wrote:I predict in next pages Tempo will enter the cabin (maybe even drag Alex to camera) and... "persuaded" Clearbrook.
"Follow your goddamn orders. This is your final warning."
"Oh sh- okey, my bad."
I suspect they will either end up on the white haired girl's cruiser or there are some other factions lurking around (historians, the blue thingies oder even some cloaked Darlok :P) that will come to their rescue.
Isn't their a Barsam or Neridi courier ships in system, could they not RV with that ships.

and I really hope the gang ends up on Ashrains ship, I think your suspecting is right on the money. Ashrain battle cruiser is racing for Enedd point (closest to Highland-7)

Re: Page 131: The one in which we learn how Loroi swear

Posted: Tue May 15, 2018 4:29 am
by icekatze
hi hi
Random Person wrote:My guess is the Courier Corvette sitting at the Gora Relay if it hasn't left offscreen
If I'm reading the trade script correctly, that courier is labelled "14". Possibly courier number 14?

The amount of time that has passed is a little bit unclear, but perhaps the courier was caught during refueling or something and isn't going to be able to make the jump before the Umiak arrive. Perhaps it jumped at the first sign of the Umiak and doesn't have any of the intel concerning the deep jump fleets. Maybe courier 14 is going to head Azimol while Clearbrook is going down the line to Seren to spread the alarm to multiple systems. Hard to say yet.
NOMAD wrote:Isn't their a Barsam or Neridi courier ships in system
I didn't see any non-loroi ships on the map, but considering the Barsam's reaction to Alex, they might be one of the only ships motivated enough to jump into the system to attempt a rescue. Although I suspect that it would require some highly unlikely circumstances for them to be in such a position in the first place.