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Page 141 Discussion - "I think that was MY head"

Posted: Tue Oct 02, 2018 2:24 am
by Username
Whoooooo, Another Great Page Arioch !

I love how you did weightless hair on Beryl in the last panel.

http://well-of-souls.com/outsider/outsider141.html

:edit forgot the page link :oops:

Re: Page 141 Discussion - "I think that was MY head"

Posted: Tue Oct 02, 2018 4:04 am
by novius
Aaaand... Beryl almost fully switched to the "protect/care for the male" mode, giving the Loroi in the passenger section only a passing thought in favour of his small head wound. :) And head wounds usually look much worse than they are.

I wonder how Alex would take being mothered by a girl about half or two-thirds of his chronological age - I can almost imagine the next lines:

Alex: "Really, it's nothing!"

Beryl: "You are bleeding all over the place. Now shush and let me fetch the medkit!"

A little bit of nitpicking: Especially in panel two this wound looks more like a clear cut rather than a rip or bruise, as to be expected from hitting or getting scratched by a sharp object rather than something softer/more blunt. Could have been the edge of an armor plate rather than Beryl's head Alex hit.

Re: Page 141 Discussion - "I think that was MY head"

Posted: Tue Oct 02, 2018 4:22 am
by icekatze
hi hi

First the food, then the radiation and another head injury. If Alex hadn't been resting for the last week or so, I'd think he might need some of that. ;)

The first thought that came to my mind was: "Forget the cut, are my pupils the same size? If so, I'm alright."
novius wrote:Could have been the edge of an armor plate rather than Beryl's head Alex hit.
Well, Beryl's head might not have been the only thing he hit. Maybe after bouncing off Beryl, he hit the corner of the console on his way to the deck?

Still, from the looks of the way they were positioned right before the explosion, I suppose he might have hit Beryl's brow or chin at an edgewise angle. Some facial bones have enough of a corner to cause a cut like that when they hit a flat surface, the stitches I got in my chin as a kid were a testament to that.

Re: Page 141 Discussion - "I think that was MY head"

Posted: Tue Oct 02, 2018 4:40 am
by Krulle
They have to cycle the pressure door?
Has the passenger compartment been breached, and lost its pressure?

Re: Page 141 Discussion - "I think that was MY head"

Posted: Tue Oct 02, 2018 5:19 am
by boldilocks
Krulle wrote:They have to cycle the pressure door?
Has the passenger compartment been breached, and lost its pressure?
Presumably they either lost power to functions like doors when the power system scrammed, or door power is designed to purposely shut down in events like this as a built-in safety precaution.

Re: Page 141 Discussion - "I think that was MY head"

Posted: Tue Oct 02, 2018 5:41 am
by Arioch
Small abrasions don't read very well in this art style (without having to zoom way in on it), whereas a simple cut reads very easily.

My younger brother (on whom Alex's design is somewhat based) was very accident prone as a child; he would have repeated injuries to the same location. He had his forehead stitched up so many times that eventually any significant blow there (even, once, from the smooth rounded edge of a wooden stool) would cut it open. I can imagine Alex having a similarly rambunctious youth.

The shuttle has lost power, and so powered mechanical doors have to be opened manually, which will probably involve something like opening a panel in the wall and turning a crank. You can't just push them open, even if you're as strong as Khan Noonian Singh.

Re: Page 141 Discussion - "I think that was MY head"

Posted: Tue Oct 02, 2018 7:44 am
by Krulle
D'oh, stupid me!
Of course, power is out so they have to open the doors manually.


Also, OP seems to be missing link to current page (which I always found very handy when discussing):
http://well-of-souls.com/outsider/outsider141.html

Re: Page 141 Discussion - "I think that was MY head"

Posted: Tue Oct 02, 2018 4:53 pm
by CF2
So, with no power to monitor the situation in the system, Alex and company will have little to do except wait as they coast away from the fighting. There's not likely to be much fuel left for maneuvering after trying to outrun the offensive coming in on their heels, so their plan at this point will boil down to waiting until reserve fleets can repulse the Umiak and retake the system they're in, then get transferred off the shuttle and onto a friendly vessel.

All that means waiting a long while in an un-powered state to maintain their possum act and only powering back up once they're likely to be in the clear. Time for Beryl to resume conversing about Humanity and the Loroi while bandaging him up, with side commentary from Talon and Spiral. Should be fun! I bet those two are great at derailing the science-elf's queries and taking things to interesting places.

Re: Page 141 Discussion - "I think that was MY head"

Posted: Tue Oct 02, 2018 5:07 pm
by cacambo43
CF2 wrote:So, with no power to monitor the situation in the system, Alex and company will have little to do except wait as they coast away from the fighting. There's not likely to be much fuel left for maneuvering after trying to outrun the offensive coming in on their heels, so their plan at this point will boil down to waiting until reserve fleets can repulse the Umiak and retake the system they're in, then get transferred off the shuttle and onto a friendly vessel.

All that means waiting a long while in an un-powered state to maintain their possum act and only powering back up once they're likely to be in the clear. Time for Beryl to resume conversing about Humanity and the Loroi while bandaging him up, with side commentary from Talon and Spiral. Should be fun! I bet those two are great at derailing the science-elf's queries and taking things to interesting places.
You (may be) are forgetting the contingent of Loroi in the back, and also that Mozin is presumably still in the area. It'll likely still be a near thing, but I would say that unless Arioch is taking the story into Umiak territory, that's our likely plot line.

CJSF

Re: Page 141 Discussion - "I think that was MY head"

Posted: Tue Oct 02, 2018 5:33 pm
by CF2
cacambo43 wrote:You (may be) are forgetting the contingent of Loroi in the back, and also that Mozin is presumably still in the area. It'll likely still be a near thing, but I would say that unless Arioch is taking the story into Umiak territory, that's our likely plot line.

CJSF
Not sure how long that airlock will keep the main cabin and cockpit groups apart since there are two doors to hand crank their way through. As for Mozin, I don't think they'll have stuck around with Umiak craft picking fights, but once it's safe I'm sure they'll return to rescue the shuttle. Unless we're going to get a viewpoint of things beyond Alex's perspective, or a narrative time skip, we're probably due for a tense bit of character interaction.

Re: Page 141 Discussion - "I think that was MY head"

Posted: Tue Oct 02, 2018 6:32 pm
by GeoModder
Let's hope Prophet's Reason's sensor suite is up to the task of Search&Rescue purposes, even if it is currently used as a courier. Sifting through a debris field and such with little to no energy emissions.

Re: Page 141 Discussion - "I think that was MY head"

Posted: Tue Oct 02, 2018 7:07 pm
by CrimsonFALKE
Wasn't Beryl's caste known for its sharp minds?

Re: Page 141 Discussion - "I think that was MY head"

Posted: Tue Oct 02, 2018 7:21 pm
by Zarya
You’re hitting the nail on the head...

Re: Page 141 Discussion - "I think that was MY head"

Posted: Tue Oct 02, 2018 8:16 pm
by Arioch
o ho ho ho ho ho

Re: Page 141 Discussion - "I think that was MY head"

Posted: Tue Oct 02, 2018 8:47 pm
by Luge
Incidentally, we use these kinds of doors already on modern sea-going ships. See page 22 and 23 of this PDF.

These kinds of doors may have an electric motor, and up to two different types of emergency opening/closing mechanism. The first is the obvious hand-crank, but the other is a cylinder of compressed gas that can be used as a one-time push to open or close the door. The doors in the PDF show car and cargo ships, but the same type are used in military vessels.

L.

Re: Page 141 Discussion - "I think that was MY head"

Posted: Tue Oct 02, 2018 9:49 pm
by icekatze
hi hi

I wouldn't have thought Beryl to be known for her razor wit.

Re: Page 141 Discussion - "I think that was MY head"

Posted: Wed Oct 03, 2018 2:44 am
by Werra
She's the brightest thing in the room.

Re: Page 141 Discussion - "I think that was MY head"

Posted: Wed Oct 03, 2018 7:20 am
by Krulle
Werra wrote:She's the brightest thing in the room.
And the sharpest, with the cutting edge brain artificial evolution has given her.

Re: Page 141 Discussion - "I think that was MY head"

Posted: Wed Oct 03, 2018 8:12 am
by boldilocks
Diplomacy is all about putting your heads together.

Re: Page 141 Discussion - "I think that was MY head"

Posted: Wed Oct 03, 2018 10:09 am
by volrath77
novius wrote:Aaaand... Beryl almost fully switched to the "protect/care for the male" mode, giving the Loroi in the passenger section only a passing thought in favour of his small head wound.
Given how casually Talon had 'sacrificed' the station, it may be that the attitude of the Loroi female/warrior class to each other is purely pragmatic...if that's the correct term for it.

EDIT: Forgot about the Barsam ship. Any chances that it is still around? Given that that Rigai Mozin said it would take him 16000 solon = ~291 minutes or ~4.8 hours to reach the shuttle...chances he might still be around...IF he's not dead yet or turned tail.