Page 199: MAD about stuff

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Well, that happened. How's everyones' life insurance?

(No IR or other automatic telescopes on?)

Also, current format is fine IMO.

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Well shit....

This CANNOT be good.
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Whale wrote:
Sun May 09, 2021 11:58 pm
(No IR or other automatic telescopes on?)
Page 195: "Optics got fried".

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Mk_C wrote:
Mon May 10, 2021 12:57 am
Page 195: "Optics got fried".
In my defense that was a month ago. :P

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This bodes poorly.

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And now shall we hear the other sides sales pitch?

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Im curious why the buoy didnt pick up on that formation.

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QuakeIV wrote:
Mon May 10, 2021 4:11 am
Im curious why the buoy didnt pick up on that formation.
It's probably just a message/relay buoy; without something in the system to provide new input then it only repeats the data last inserted into its system.

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QuakeIV wrote:
Mon May 10, 2021 4:11 am
Im curious why the buoy didnt pick up on that formation.
(ninja'd)
The buoys are mainly relays; they have only short range sensors. Once the Loroi forces left the system and the larger bases with long-range sensors got "stomped," there were no further updates to the situational picture.

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Kensai wrote:
Mon May 10, 2021 12:03 am
Well shit....

This CANNOT be good.

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The giant Umiak ship looks like the same design as the one on P. 135, which seems to correspond with the silhouette of the Type-TT Superheavy

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Yikes.

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chanman wrote:
Mon May 10, 2021 5:17 am
The giant Umiak ship looks like the same design as the one on P. 135, which seems to correspond with the silhouette of the Type-TT Superheavy
It is the same ship as on p.135, but it's a variant on the KT hybrid missile/strike cruiser. The TTK is much larger.

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Hmm, either the Umiak have good scanners, or have been hinted at where to look.
Or their Lotai devices allowed them to locate Sanzai as well.
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charred steppes, borders of territories: page 59,
jump-map of local stars: page 121, larger map in Loroi: page 118,
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Krulle wrote:
Mon May 10, 2021 5:57 am
Hmm, either the Umiak have good scanners, or have been hinted at where to look.
Or their Lotai devices allowed them to locate Sanzai as well.
Or their monomaniacal natures being what they are someone realized that the shuttle could fit through the gap of the station's outer ring and as thus could survive. Then said someone run the velocities involved and started plotting a potential trajectory for the shuttle.

Extra points if that someone was ordered to do that because:
A) Talon and the captain of Clearbrook talked about an ambassador being aboard the shuttle.
B) Said shuttles are rare and are known to be used by high ranking officers, making the presence of a VIP aboard all the more likely.

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I wonder if the Umiak can detect life-signs, or will they have to board?

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Mercy Machine wrote:
Mon May 10, 2021 7:06 am
I wonder if the Umiak can detect life-signs, or will they have to board?
While "life signs" are a popular trope in SF, I'm not really sure how heartbeats and the like could be detected by an enemy across a distance of vacuum. Sound is mostly out of the question, unless your sensors are so sensitive and accurate that you can detect the disturbance of a heartbeat in the hull of the target ship itself. Body heat is another possible detection medium, but while you might be able to get a clear infrared signature of a body through something like drywall (thinking of Terminator here), I doubt it's quite that easy through a shuttle hull, especially when the living inhabitants are hiding beneath the cryogenic fuel storage.

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Yes, I've always been sceptical of the "life-signs" trope myself.

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Missed the diary entry for this page:
https://well-of-souls.com/outsider/diary07.html

I agree with: stick to the format.

If colour is important, then reducing to black/grey/white will not be a smart move.
The artists satisfaction with his works are important for a continuous flow of works, as that motivates the artist.

And I agree, it's unlikely to be a time saver.

And if a completed comic should ever be converted to a dead-tree-pulp version, then it would have to be done then.

And coloured pages attract more readers than black&white pages.
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charred steppes, borders of territories: page 59,
jump-map of local stars: page 121, larger map in Loroi: page 118,
System view Leido Crossroads: page 123, after the battle page 195

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I noticed there are a bunch of already fired ordnance in the background - missiles with blue trailing thrusters above the Umiak ship, and some without a blue trail below it. Have they fired on the Shuttle already? Are they just ships far away in the background?
The giant Umiak ship looks like the same design as the one on P. 135....
Interesting, I didn't perceive the Umiak ship as gigantic - I saw it as just closer to the 'camera', and actually close in size to the Loroi shuttle. Looking at details like the distance between the 4 cannons and the flaps around the engines, I figured they were the same size as the wing flaps on the shuttle, and the 'flap to rest of the ship' ratio seems similar.
Hmm, either the Umiak have good scanners, or have been hinted at where to look.
Or their Lotai devices allowed them to locate Sanzai as well.
Or it could just be that one of the Umiak ships just stumbled upon them while looking for salvageable debris...
Extra points if that someone was ordered to do that because:
A) Talon and the captain of Clearbrook talked about an ambassador being aboard the shuttle.
B) Said shuttles are rare and are known to be used by high ranking officers, making the presence of a VIP aboard all the more likely.
I expect Kikitik-27 is capable of such deduction.
While "life signs" are a popular trope in SF, I'm not really sure how heartbeats and the like could be detected by an enemy across a distance of vacuum.
This actually rings a bell for me on a cool existing technology - detecting sound remotely by reflecting a laser beam of a hard surface, then using interferometry sensitive to minute vibrations of said surface (usually used on a window). It allows sounds to be heard from very far away because the sound information travels using the light as a medium, instead of the pressure waves of sound. The technology is simple enough to be a DIY project for some people like this: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1MrudVza6mo
Missed the diary entry for this page:
https://well-of-souls.com/outsider/diary07.html

I agree with: stick to the format.
Me too. I love the quality of the work, and while expediting updates is important, I wouldn't want the quality compromised.

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