Such are the spoils of war.Wintermute wrote:Edit: Also Geomodder your avatar depresses the hell out of me.
(I'm awaiting a pic where Jardin has a violent stomach reaction due to his Loroi food experimenting )
You got me there.Grayhome wrote:The Nissek and the Historians are not members of the Loroi Union, they are members of the Loroi Alliance. The difference between those two institutions is that the union is composed of races the Loroi have either conquered or who have surrendered their liberties in exchange for the security the Loroi have promised them. The Alliance is an organization composed of the Loroi Union, the Historians and the Nissek Hegemony each are separate powers who have allied with each other for the purpose of protecting themselves against Umiak aggression.
Mmm, not quite. It's simply the fact the Umiak can keep on sending waves of warfleets one after the other. During the Semoset campaign the Loroi cut-off most likely happened because there were Umiak fleets taking another route to the Loroi border. For all we know those underway fleets were barely warned in advance of the Loroi spearhead in Nelain. The whole History of the War reads to me as the Umiak pounding from all directions they can on their enemy. Its simply impossible for the Umiak along such a huge front to coordinate fleet movements.Grayhome wrote:It's all there in the History of the war. Reread the page with my words in mind and make the decision for yourselves, to me it looks like the Umiak have been playing the Loroi from the very beginning of the war with the skill of a master.
The Loroi didn't make the Golim susceptible to their telepathic abilities. Its a situation they found. But admittedly, they partially exploited it. But I'm also pretty sure you won't find many Loroi on Golim-Chei. Circumstances there are simply too hostile to them. The off-world Golim on the other hand are free bait so to speak.Grayhome wrote:Concerning the Golim, an excellent way to make a person your slave is to make that slavery pleasurable. Drugs and drink were common ways for dictators to maintain control of their underclasses in ye olden days of yore, and still are, come to think of it. Anyone for some poppy?
Concerning the Arekka (of whom I am a fan of btw) they have a Loroi military force on the ground and operate under severe restrictions. The Arekka people live under a government that operates through the threat of violence and the use of violence. This is not freedom. When someone controls every aspect of your life including when to end that life then it is (to me at least) slavery.
For the Arekka, the Germans between the end of WWII and the fall of the Soviet Union as comparison?
To me it more looks like the Loroi consider their alien contacts' martial capabilities inferior unless proven otherwise. If there was a total imperial dictatorship in effect, I don't think alien contractors would get a benefit for manufacturing over their Loroi counterparts. Its just so that (most of) current Loroi society is heavily stratified, and the Loroi military happen to be the best among the races that compose the Union. Other races' abilities are appearantly quite recognized and appreciated (see the Neridi and Pipolsid).Grayhome wrote:From what I have been able to determine from Arioch's writings, the Loroi consider all other races in the galaxy to be their servants, either conquered or waiting to be conquered. Also, the Loroi regularly practice psionic mind muckery to dominate or influence others. Your definition seems to prove my points very well, thank you for it.