Loroi abilities, and Loroi Judo

[fredgiblet]

I always find it amusing when people go "OH CUTE!" and rush towards a wild animal and then get hurt.

Like those retards who climb into zoo enclosures, I think they should be left in there permanently.

[javcs]

I always find it amusing when people go "OH CUTE!" and rush towards a wild animal and then get hurt.

Like those retards who climb into zoo enclosures, I think they should be left in there permanently.

C'mon, man, that's harsh, cruel, and uncalled for. They shouldn't have to put up with that. What did they ever do to you to earn such ill intent focused upon them?





















The animals deserve better than that.

[Michael]

I always find it amusing when people go "OH CUTE!" and rush towards a wild animal and then get hurt.

Like those retards who climb into zoo enclosures, I think they should be left in there permanently.

C'mon, man, that's harsh, cruel, and uncalled for. They shouldn't have to put up with that. What did they ever do to you to earn such ill intent focused upon them?





The animals deserve better than that.

I think it may have been a dare or something, see we've had horses since forever and one of the first things my mum taught us was to be careful around whether their tied up or in their stable or what have you, 'cos there's always the possibility that they could do some severe damage, anyway, she told him not to go near these horses (the sign saying Warning! Dangerous animals! should have been a hint) so he jumped the fence, got kicked and air lifted to a hospital or something, all in all a fun day so I was told

And the reason they take people out of the animal enclosures in the zoo is so the animals don't kill them for the betterment of the race, survival of the fittest and all that (cos only an idiot thinks entering a near wild animals home is a good idea )

[saint of m]

Adult Elephants can be taken from the wild, and African elephants have been used for war (Carthegenians used them alot before Rome wiped them off the face of the Earth).

A technique used in Africa was to get a fenced off area where a tame elephant cow would be. A wild male, looking for love, would come in but couldn't get out and would be too exhosted trying to get out to fight off the humans.

However all things considering with the predators in Africa, the elephants tend to be meaner and tougher.

Another problem with breeding them in captivity is the length it would take to raise a baby.

2 year gestation.
15 years from birth to maturity.

In that time you could have several litters of dogs to pull your sled or a few horses.

A big problem with zebras is how skiddish they are. Horses are by nature as well, freaking out at the littlest things, but they are no where as bad as a wild zebra.

And since no one brought up predatory animals, for the most part it's simple: Mankind has not domesticated any of the maggoty of predatory animals outside of wolves and house cats (although cats it may have been the other way around) largely due to the fact you would need too animals for the price of one: the Predator and what the predator is going to eat.

Again with the rhyno: horrible eyesight, worse disposition, would try and run over the trainer then the allies then maybe the enemy.

[junk]

Adult Elephants can be taken from the wild, and African elephants have been used for war (Carthegenians used them alot before Rome wiped them off the face of the Earth).

A technique used in Africa was to get a fenced off area where a tame elephant cow would be. A wild male, looking for love, would come in but couldn't get out and would be too exhosted trying to get out to fight off the humans.

However all things considering with the predators in Africa, the elephants tend to be meaner and tougher.

Another problem with breeding them in captivity is the length it would take to raise a baby.

2 year gestation.
15 years from birth to maturity.

In that time you could have several litters of dogs to pull your sled or a few horses.

A big problem with zebras is how skiddish they are. Horses are by nature as well, freaking out at the littlest things, but they are no where as bad as a wild zebra.

And since no one brought up predatory animals, for the most part it's simple: Mankind has not domesticated any of the maggoty of predatory animals outside of wolves and house cats (although cats it may have been the other way around) largely due to the fact you would need too animals for the price of one: the Predator and what the predator is going to eat.

Again with the rhyno: horrible eyesight, worse disposition, would try and run over the trainer then the allies then maybe the enemy.

To be honest the benefit of Cats and Dogs/wolves is that they are incredibly social animals which made them mesh very well with social humans. Other predatory animals can be domesticated as well, but you generally have get some of the more social charecteristics to be more prominent over multigeneration breeding.

Foxes come to mind, which do in fact have a relatively successfull domestication project.

Though overall another important thing to consider is utlity of said animals. Both cats and dogs had an amazing utility for early humans. Other predators might not as thier potential biggest utility is companionship as opposed to something to help in survival.

[Arioch]

Cats actually aren't that social; the domestic variety are largely solitary when in the wild. Which is very unusual for a domesticated animal. The human-cat relationship is a very strange one.

[fredgiblet]

We attract rodents for them to consume
We provide plenty of body heat for them to harvest
We worship them as gods

I don't think it's so strange that they'd want to hang out with us.

[Absalom]

Cats actually aren't that social; the domestic variety are largely solitary when in the wild. Which is very unusual for a domesticated animal. The human-cat relationship is a very strange one.

I've heard that feral cats are actually loosely social, though this might be a warped kitten trait, and might not apply to wild species. The trick is that they aren't pack hunters, so they've never developed the close bonds that typify dogs & humans. Cat prey tends to be easier to go after, apparently.

And apparently Sand Cats don't feel any particular fear of us, and sometimes share burrows, so the other species might have similar traits.

[junk]

Cats actually aren't that social; the domestic variety are largely solitary when in the wild. Which is very unusual for a domesticated animal. The human-cat relationship is a very strange one.

Cats actually do follow a relative pack order as well. They aren't as dependant on closeness as dogs but they tend to hang close to their "pack" usually staying in the same rooms and similar.

And in the wild cats form packs pretty commonly.

[Arioch]

Wild cats have a community of sorts where some "hang out" together, and there's a pecking order as regards mating. But as far as I'm aware they're solo hunters, and there's not any kind of pack organization or coordination.

In most herd or pack animals, if you can control the Alpha, then you've usually got control of the whole herd; it's an important tool for domestication. With cats it's a one-on-one relationship; Fluffy doesn't give a hoot whether or not you're getting along with Mittens.

[Absalom]

Wild cats have a community of sorts where some "hang out" together, and there's a pecking order as regards mating. But as far as I'm aware they're solo hunters, and there's not any kind of pack organization or coordination.

In most herd or pack animals, if you can control the Alpha, then you've usually got control of the whole herd; it's an important tool for domestication. With cats it's a one-on-one relationship; Fluffy doesn't give a hoot whether or not you're getting along with Mittens.

I believe it's described as a 'colonial' society, though I'm not a sociologist so maybe not.

Though if cats did have a tighter-knit pack structure, then they probably wouldn't have worked out well as pest control animals.

[saint of m]

Cats are incredibly independent, especially the domesticated variety. Of the cat family, the clsoest we can get to pack animals is with their cousins the hyena.

While individually cats are all different, for the most part they never truly lost their wild side. Even when provided plenty of food they spend roughly 6 hours hunting for the thrill of it.

You can;t really train a cat unless it wants to either. You can do some Skinner Box stuff (ring a bell, and it's dinner time), but everything else is well, the cat's idea.

Meowing is largely something they do with only people to get their attention.

They leave their poop out in the open? Cats normaly like to hide their waste as they know predators could find it and they can't take on a bobcat or coyote. However if they leave it out, it's seen as a chellenge brought on by alot of stress.

Bringing you dead animals? They think you are too stupid to live on your own so they have to provide you with food as if you were a kitten.

[fredgiblet]

I let my cat out in the rain today (it was his idea) within 10 minutes he had murdered something and was eating it. My cat is awesome.

[bunnyboy]

Egypt remained a regional power until the Persians came along and stomped them, and let's face it--the Persians stomped everyone.

What was the group of barbarians, who come nowhere, stomped both Egyptians and Persians, then build their capital city on top of mountain in middle of desert and got themselves forgotten?.

[Suederwind]

Are you referring to the sea people?

[daelyte]

The sea peoples invasions were at least a millenium before the persians.

There were two persian empires, the first conquered by Alexander and the second by Muhammad. In both cases Egypt was already theirs, thus could not be stomped separately.

[Absalom]

As for the Sea Peoples themselves, Egypt seems to have been the only empire they did not completely stomp.

Though apparently noone really knows what offed at least one of them.

[bunnyboy]

Are you referring to the sea people?

Quite opposite. They lived on desert between Egypt and Persia and their rule exist maybe only for one generation. And their capital city was crazy defended. It was located on top of mountain, in middle of desert with no access to natural resources in couple of days travel. And the only road in or out was something like this but high walls in each side:

Edit: It was Abruptly sloped, making it hard to walk in and impossible to attack. King's palace was in end of the same road, but it was similarly hard to get in by citizens. End Edit

I'm sure that the main reason for their dissappearing is that they get tired of it and decided to move away.

[Grayhome]

I believe you are speaking of the Hittite Empire, and specifically their capital of Hattusa.

[bunnyboy]

I don't think those either. If I recall it right, they lived near Siinai, almost on the path of Egyptians and Persians soldiers. They got their change when both superpowers were weakened by their wars and help with some new invention. I think it was some radical upgrade in either metallurgy or bows, but which was easily copied and used in egyptian war chariots decade later. They give big scare to everyone, but couldn't hold their "empire" but very short time.