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CaptainChaos wrote:So no Human/Loroi hybrids, oh well there's always adoption!

I could be wrong but I think Arioch mentioned earlier that the similarities between Humans and Loroi would be a future plot point about who the Loroi are descended from (the Sola?). This could be a Farscape like situation where the Sola harvested early Humans from Earth and genetically modified them over time into the Loroi. Maybe they'll start talking about the differences once the shuttle ride starts, after all they will have "many days" for Q&A.

Actually, after re-reading comics 100 and 101 I have a question about the 51st strike group and system defense, so the strike force jumps into the system to get repaired and resupplied while sending out a shuttle to the system captial at Seren (which is apparently "many days" travel from where the strike force is within the system), so there must be a forward staging and resupply base/area on the outskirts of the system. My question is what exactly is this resupply position, is it a space station or is it a collection of supply ships that is meeting up with the strike group (to save on travel time for the strike group)?
They're not in Seren. They've met a resupply convoy in one of the dead zone systems - the shuttle is transferring Alex and company to one of the convoy's escort ships, the escort ship will be providing the ride to Seren.

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Plenty of time for an unplanned crash landing on a lush deserted jungle world with gratuitous bikini survival action!

*unfortunately it is Alex in the bikini. Terran garb is not as durable as Loroi clothing.

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Technicly, with good enough knowledge of biology and manipulation, you should be able to create offspring. If you know how human DNA transmits data and how Loroi DNA transmits data, you can basicly create "artificial" life-forms.
Altough it would be more classified as "genetic experiment" or "sin against nature" than offspring.

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I think I speak for many men when I say that the incompatibility of Human/Loroi DNA would be no reason not to try ....For science of course.... 8-)
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CaptainChaos wrote:So no Human/Loroi hybrids, oh well there's always adoption!
TrashMan wrote:Technicly, with good enough knowledge of biology and manipulation, you should be able to create offspring. If you know how human DNA transmits data and how Loroi DNA transmits data, you can basicly create "artificial" life-forms.
Altough it would be more classified as "genetic experiment" or "sin against nature" than offspring.
Michael wrote:I think I speak for many men when I say that the incompatibility of Human/Loroi DNA would be no reason not to try ....For science of course.... 8-)
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TrashMan wrote:Technicly, with good enough knowledge of biology and manipulation, you should be able to create offspring. If you know how human DNA transmits data and how Loroi DNA transmits data, you can basicly create "artificial" life-forms. Altough it would be more classified as "genetic experiment" or "sin against nature" than offspring.
Well, the "data" in DNA isn't a schematic of an organism, it's just a series of instructions to manipulate certain molecules and thereby trigger certain biochemistry-specific processes; if Soia-Liron and Earth biology use different molecules or processes, then that "data" is not very useful, like machine code for two completely unrelated processors. With sufficient knowledge, technology and skill, you could try to "translate" from one system to the other, but what you'd get would be like a port of a PC program to a console (or vice-versa)... the functionality would never be quite the same. And trying to mix the traits of two individuals with different biochemical systems together would have to be the conscious effort of the builder, like an artist creating a sculpture meant to look half like one person and half like another; it would be an extremely subjective creation and not any kind of "offspring" in the conventional sense. If you decided to build a human with the Soia-Liron biochemistry, you'd get something that looks suspiciously like a Loroi.

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Personally, I favor the Chimera method (tricky though it would be).

Also, wolverines for hands.

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Arioch wrote:
TrashMan wrote:Technicly, with good enough knowledge of biology and manipulation, you should be able to create offspring. If you know how human DNA transmits data and how Loroi DNA transmits data, you can basicly create "artificial" life-forms. Altough it would be more classified as "genetic experiment" or "sin against nature" than offspring.
Well, the "data" in DNA isn't a schematic of an organism, it's just a series of instructions to manipulate certain molecules and thereby trigger certain biochemistry-specific processes; if Soia-Liron and Earth biology use different molecules or processes, then that "data" is not very useful, like machine code for two completely unrelated processors. With sufficient knowledge, technology and skill, you could try to "translate" from one system to the other, but what you'd get would be like a port of a PC program to a console (or vice-versa)... the functionality would never be quite the same. And trying to mix the traits of two individuals with different biochemical systems together would have to be the conscious effort of the builder, like an artist creating a sculpture meant to look half like one person and half like another; it would be an extremely subjective creation and not any kind of "offspring" in the conventional sense. If you decided to build a human with the Soia-Liron biochemistry, you'd get something that looks suspiciously like a Loroi.
Given that the natural way is random, there's not much difference.
Of course, the buidler could also randomize on purpose.

And given that Loroi or humans already look alike...

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The more I read this... the more I can't stop seeing Beryl's thought bubble... "I'm sooo gonna tap that...!"

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... I must be reading more into it than must be there. Guess I'm a perv. :)
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sunphoenix wrote:The more I read this... the more I can't stop seeing Beryl's thought bubble... "I'm sooo gonna tap that...!"

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... I must be reading more into it than must be there. Guess I'm a perv. :)
You're calling yourself a perv for shipping two characters in a sci-fi space opera visual novel/webcomic. Big deal. I've written Romney/Santorum fanfiction.

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ed_montague wrote:Big deal. I've written Romney/Santorum fanfiction.

I win.
That is a rather Pyrrhic victory, Mr. Montague.

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Solemn wrote:
ed_montague wrote:Big deal. I've written Romney/Santorum fanfiction.

I win.
That is a rather Pyrrhic victory, Mr. Montague.
I think that it would be covered by the First Amendment and the rules on parody (if Robot Chicken can get away with the stuff it broadcasts, a fun little story featuring Cthulhu!Gingrich and Ron Paul's war zeppelin shouldn't be a problem) but I'm slightly worried about posting it on DeviantArt--I wouldn't put it past Romney to sue me for defamation of character. :D

Aw, hell, it's not that bad. And it's not as if people actually read my stuff.
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So you're on Da too?
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Incorrect. I am on Nyet. ;)

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Just have to say that as one who has spent years underwater in submarines, Ariochs use of personal space is both familiar and surprising..! The close contact or (lack of personal space) is very realistic (for a 300ft long submarine)
The wide open rooms and passageways on the spaceships are remarkably spacious though (almost too much so) but this creates a wonderful visual feel to this story.
So from a realism standpoint there is way too much space, but drawing it "realistically" would create an entirely different visual pallet... and it would not be appealing!
So kudos Arioch! Beautiful design! I'm not sure if the combination of greatly reduced personal space and huge beautiful, and intriguing vistas was intentional... But please don't change it!

Love this! Will have to purchase a hard copy when it reaches it's conclusion!

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xshawk: you will notice a distinct design difference between the terran ships and loroi, terran are closer to what you would think proper, still not near as claustrophobic as a sub though, i think you might see that in the 'proper' terran military ships, this is a LONG range scout spending months or years inside it without even seeing a hint of possible shore leave makes comfort a bigger priority me thinks.

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discord wrote:xshawk: you will notice a distinct design difference between the terran ships and loroi, terran are closer to what you would think proper, still not near as claustrophobic as a sub though, i think you might see that in the 'proper' terran military ships, this is a LONG range scout spending months or years inside it without even seeing a hint of possible shore leave makes comfort a bigger priority me thinks.
Plus, the Loroi as a species requires more personal space, so ships with larger corridors, ect, would probably be added as standard.
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Arioch wrote:
TrashMan wrote:Technicly, with good enough knowledge of biology and manipulation, you should be able to create offspring. If you know how human DNA transmits data and how Loroi DNA transmits data, you can basicly create "artificial" life-forms. Altough it would be more classified as "genetic experiment" or "sin against nature" than offspring.
Well, the "data" in DNA isn't a schematic of an organism, it's just a series of instructions to manipulate certain molecules and thereby trigger certain biochemistry-specific processes; if Soia-Liron and Earth biology use different molecules or processes, then that "data" is not very useful, like machine code for two completely unrelated processors. With sufficient knowledge, technology and skill, you could try to "translate" from one system to the other, but what you'd get would be like a port of a PC program to a console (or vice-versa)... the functionality would never be quite the same. And trying to mix the traits of two individuals with different biochemical systems together would have to be the conscious effort of the builder, like an artist creating a sculpture meant to look half like one person and half like another; it would be an extremely subjective creation and not any kind of "offspring" in the conventional sense. If you decided to build a human with the Soia-Liron biochemistry, you'd get something that looks suspiciously like a Loroi.
It's not said that we are fully incompatible. I don't expect offsprings, but we may use some of their chemicals. For example, in emergency you can give cleaned loroi blood to human. As copper based bloodsells would work as easily in human veins. Maybe he tire easily, but in theory he should survive. But I don't advice to give human hemoglobin to loroi. Because our redsells are much bigger than copper based oxygen transferers, they are probably too big to travel in thinnest weins of loroi and they could block the loroi lungs.
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