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Hālian
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 Re: Loroi Trade translation request general What is the Loroi word for "tap (e.g. a barrel of beer; a maple tree)" and the Umiak word for "un-tap (same)"? Because in line with the old tilted-T tap symbol, I'd like to do a "tilted Trade T" tap symbol and a "tilted Umiak 'untap'" untap symbol for an Outsider-themed MTG set :3
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Arioch
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Re: Loroi Trade translation request general The literal meaning of "tap" would be an odd translation for the MTG action of "tap". You might consider pinno "consume, deplete," and pozoli "refill, restore." I don't have an Umiak lexicon, sorry. _________________Outsider
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Hālian
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Re: Loroi Trade translation request general Hmm... they can't both be tilted Ps, that'd be too confusing. I might do tilted-L (lashri "deactivate") for "tap" and tilted-P (piio "charge") for "untap".
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Hālian
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Re: Loroi Trade translation request general
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Arioch
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Re: Loroi Trade translation request general Trade doesn't have a word for mana, so you could either just use the word "mana," or perhaps manzatrin which means "sorcery."  (subject) any two mana using or  using can be paid. this card changed mana cost (subject) 10 seems to be. me tanas zilo (mana) neimod nin neimod tilleit bederi. Sopis biisten porrila (mana) dazar me ZP tizatli. _________________Outsider
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Hālian
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Re: Loroi Trade translation request general Mana is fine. I'll use manzatrin for the sorcery card type. In that vein:
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Arioch
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Re: Loroi Trade translation request general Artifact - biseromat
Creature - perrair (monster)
Enchantment - teshrebor (charm)
Instant - berinzon (moment)
Land - tirot (ground, dirt)
Basic - niistil (ordinary)
Legendary - torras (famous)
Snow(y) - sisto
Tribal - bellit
World - tobi
Several of these were already in the lexicon.
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Hālian
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Re: Loroi Trade translation request general And then three types that I forgot in the last request, two archaic and one extant: 
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Arioch
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Re: Loroi Trade translation request general interrupt - v. ronnorsi ("prevent"), n. ronnorsid ("prevention")
source - naobis
walker - nirrosadi (walk - nirrosa)
plane of existence - telomi
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Hālian
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Re: Loroi Trade translation request general Would a loroi Magic player be offended by the use of the imperative on abilities such as "Populate." or "Planeswalk."?
More to the point, is it grammatically correct?
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fredgiblet
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Re: Loroi Trade translation request general What is the Loroi word for Psi abilities as a whole?
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Arioch
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Re: Loroi Trade translation request general I don't see any problem with it. mibel dishred "mental abilities" telepathy is sanzaipsychokinesis/telepathy is linoro_________________Outsider
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Hālian
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Re: Loroi Trade translation request general I found a better way to force RTL than typing everything backwards... It's a Unicode control character called RIGHT-TO-LEFT OVERRIDE. On Windows, you can get to it with Alt+8238 (or 202E, Alt-X in Word). When you need to switch from Trade to English, there's POP DIRECTIONAL FORMATTING (Alt+8236 or 202C, Alt-X).
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Hālian
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Re: Loroi Trade translation request general What's the name of the Loroi Union in Trade? Also: * You accidentally put the translation in the column where the Trade word should go.
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Arioch
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Re: Loroi Trade translation request general Loroi Nirreiscape (landform): taneisdemocratic: bomoin besed ("mob rule") equator: serronlesisland: lenzatland: tirot ("dirt, ground"), loris ("place, land") line: neianorth: pinziiof: mipopular/people's: lerris ("public") principality/emirate: seseir ("dictatorship") rich: rennerstate: lonoteto unite: nirreisivirgin: sal bodat ("have not copulated") That's what I have at present.
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Hālian
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Re: Loroi Trade translation request general  More seriously: To calque the Latin term directly, republic ( res publica, lit. “public thing”) could be lerrimilol or similar. Similarly, “democracy” could be pelobesed (“common-rule”, cf. Gk. dēmokratía), and “federal” could be “bonzarba” (to agree, cf. Lat. foedus “covenant”) or derived therefrom.
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Hālian
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Re: Loroi Trade translation request general No but seriously the lexicon entry for "middle, center" is still borked.
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Arioch
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Re: Loroi Trade translation request general I'm aware. I'm in Canada at the moment; there's nothing I can do about it right now. _________________Outsider
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Hālian
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Re: Loroi Trade translation request general Sorry.  Have fun in Canada.
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Arioch
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Re: Loroi Trade translation request general Thanks for the sentiment, but there's no fun to be had here. _________________Outsider
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Re: Loroi Trade translation request general Beware of the Battle Moose that those crazy Canucks are breeding.
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Re: Loroi Trade translation request general The lexicon incoldues two entries for 'star'. Is one or both of them a specific star instead of a generic, or is this an error? Also, I'm curious about the exact distinction between tobi, 'world', and lenzos, 'earth (a.k.a. planet)'.
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Arioch
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Re: Loroi Trade translation request general Synonyms exist in Trade as well as English. Taia derives from the concept of a star as a visible point in the sky, whereas sillat derives from the concept of a star as an astrophysical body, but they both mean essentially the same thing. Similarly, the semantic difference between tobi and lenzos is essentially the same as between English "world" and "planet." _________________Outsider
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Re: Loroi Trade translation request general To give a crude explanation, under current IAU definitions Earth is both a tobi and a lenzos, while Pluto is only a tobi.  _________________
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Hālian
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Re: Loroi Trade translation request general From the WIP Discussion thread:  | | | | Arioch wrote: Trade doesn't have possessive pronouns; you just apply the possessive modifier as normal: "my" and "your" would be tezair mi and lozen mi. "With" in the sense of the preposition "accompanied by, including" is pazed, but in the sense of the verb "use or utilize" is neimo. Tezair mi pezendes monnen (tezair me) tillo tii mezi to tezair mi lishran neimodas (tezair me) lallai."My toy towards (I) bend, and it using my hands (I) retrieve." (The explicit tezair me "I, the subject" is assumed in most speech and therefore usually omitted.) Sopis saia moidir lozen mi daio lozen me nibato tii sallit ditii"This lock in your key you insert, and door open." Sopis dirred raridis moidir toizi sinas."This big hole in they fell." Not exactly, but I will decline to translate the rest unless you have a specific need for those translations. No. Because of the dual-column nature of the table on that page, individual insertions are problematic, and re-exporting the entire lexicon takes significant effort. I suppose there are things I could do to automate it... but that's a task for another time. tiio | | | | |
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