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Follow up question: How popular are the Torrais then? Is Stillstorm well known for example?

I'm sure there are a wide range of opinions of different officers. Stillstorm has been around for a long time and is about as well known as any officer of her rank, but kind of like a submarine commander, much of what she does is out of sight of the public and not much talked about. She doesn't spend much time in port and when she is, her personality is not exactly that of a media darling.

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Does that not mean that information regarding the lives and tribulations of said heroes would remain very accurate over extremely long periods of time? After all, embellishing (the main source of inaccuracies) means lying and that's nearly impossible...

Information can still be subjective; two people can watch the same event and have different interpretations of it. But there is less room for obvious exaggeration or misrepresentation.

Because information is packaged together with context (who said what), it can be easier to fact check and run down mistaken information, rather than being left with persistent anonymous rumors.

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That's too bad. A Stillstorm fanclub would have been hilarious. :lol:


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I'd say it gives extra weight to the goal of many in the warrior caste of having their deeds be remembered, if there's a population who is eager to learn of such deeds.


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Does that not mean that information regarding the lives and tribulations of said heroes would remain very accurate over extremely long periods of time? After all, embellishing (the main source of inaccuracies) means lying and that's nearly impossible...

Information can still be subjective; two people can watch the same event and have different interpretations of it. But there is less room for obvious exaggeration or misrepresentation.

Because information is packaged together with context (who said what), it can be easier to fact check and run down mistaken information, rather than being left with persistent anonymous rumors.


I came to think of the unreliability of witness testimonies, how we automatically tend to fill in the blanks with wild guesses that become false memories. I am sure the listel know how to keep this to a minimum when comes their own memories but anything they get second hand could be affected.
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I myself have a hearing disability, I am not deaf but I have a tendency to mishear people. If what I pick up is garbled somewhat, the brain subconsciously "fill in the blanks" so I may end up clearly hearing someone saying something they didn't actually said. If the context still make sense I may then not understand that I misheard them.

This phenomena also works with eyesight up to the point that I have occupationally "seen" mythical creatures, a pile of clothes on a chair may look like a dragon in the dark but since it obviously cannot be a dragon it never register as anything but a cool coincidence, like seeing shapes in clouds. Seeing a dragon at the backdrop of a forest a mile away get the same effect, dragons do not exists so the only thing that happens is that I look at it for a few seconds until I figured out exactly how that tree over there and the bush next to it together looked like a dragon, something that dispels the illusion. But what happen when you see or hear something that is reasonable? I reject the dragon since it is ridicules but if it looks like a person I could send the police out on a wild goose chase for someone that doesn't exist. Btw, if you want to hide in plain sight, looking ridicules may actually work.

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So...do Loroi play pranks on each other with their psionics? If they do, what does it look like?


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So...do Loroi play pranks on each other with their psionics? If they do, what does it look like?

I expect that the number of pranks you could pull with telekinesis would be virtually unlimited.

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I was actually more thinking along the lines of telepathy. Putting mild suggestions into somebodys mind, making them fart at inopportune moments.
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Implanting fake memories of a beautiful family they once had and tragically lost
. Pranks, you know.

Next question if you don't mind. What officer on board Tempest would be akin to a staff-sergeant?


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Since the Loroi don't have a distinction between Enlisted and Commissioned officers I guess that the parallel of the Staff-Sergeant would be whoever oversees the various departments. On a warship that would be the first-officer/XO. On the army it would be a mid/high tier rank who would be assigned a similar position in the chain of command of the ground unit.

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I was actually more thinking along the lines of telepathy. Putting mild suggestions into somebodys mind, making them fart at inopportune moments.
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Implanting fake memories of a beautiful family they once had and tragically lost
. Pranks, you know.

There are very few Loroi who can do these things, and those that can (Mizol, mostly) wouldn't generally do them as pranks. Invading someone's mind is considered an extremely hostile act.

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Next question if you don't mind. What officer on board Tempest would be akin to a staff-sergeant?

Staff-sergeant is not a naval rank, so I'm not sure in what sense you mean. In an infantry unit, squad leaders are Tonzadi, and the Ragan ("Chosen") is roughly equivalent to a company first sergeant (though she is more equivalent in rank to a first lieutenant). For the Tempest's security unit, the Chosen would be Teidar Razorthorn (the purple-haired Unsheathed). But in terms of the ship's command staff, there are no particularly important low-ranking officers equivalent to a chief petty officer who is "chief of the boat". Clerks and staffers are usually junior Paset or Pideir. The important assistants to the commanding officer are the executive officer (Mallas Rune-Laurel) and the operations chief (Seinen Forest).

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I don't know if this has been discussed previously, but how to Teidar use their powers in combat? Is telekinesis their primary weapon, or do they use it in support of conventional weapons, similar to biotics in the Mass Effect series?

What form of attack to they favor? Lightning bolts out of their hands, a more boring tossing of their opponents around, or do they have some more interesting tricks to dispatch the cy-bug menace?


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My guess is this:

Find the brain/heart and crush it to a pulp.

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I don't know if this has been discussed previously, but how to Teidar use their powers in combat? Is telekinesis their primary weapon, or do they use it in support of conventional weapons, similar to biotics in the Mass Effect series?

What form of attack to they favor? Lightning bolts out of their hands, a more boring tossing of their opponents around, or do they have some more interesting tricks to dispatch the cy-bug menace?

It depends on the situation and the abilities of the individual, but in most cases psychokinesis is used as a supplement to a conventional weapon.

The most common modes of telekinetic attack are to throw an object at the target, to throw the target into an object, or to apply a force directly to a vulnerable point on a target (as mentioned above). For those with the proper skills, heat can be applied to an area of the target that is either combustible or explosive, or that is too strong to be defeated by direct force (such as an armored bulkhead or the skin of an armored vehicle) until it loses structural integrity to the point where the user's telekinetic force (or the object's internal pressure) will cause it to fail.

Some psychokinetics can manipulate electricity, causing shorts or overloads, but they do not generate it from their hands.

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Found this little tidbit:
"The evidence remaining at these ancient Soia-era sites is very sketchy, as these sites suffered the worst of the catastrophes that marked the end of the period and the fall of the Soia dominion; most useful evidence comes not from these sites of Soia-Liron habitation, but rather from the ancient settlements of the native subject races of the Soia."
Which races? All the non-Soia-Liron species of today were cavemen at the time (if they even existed in sentient form). This includes the Mannadi, Golim, and Pipolsid. The only ones with any advancement would have been the ancestors of the Fenrias and Historians. And the Historians would not give away such info....
Just how many civilisations existed at the time of the Fall?...


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Found this little tidbit:
"The evidence remaining at these ancient Soia-era sites is very sketchy, as these sites suffered the worst of the catastrophes that marked the end of the period and the fall of the Soia dominion; most useful evidence comes not from these sites of Soia-Liron habitation, but rather from the ancient settlements of the native subject races of the Soia."
Which races? All the non-Soia-Liron species of today were cavemen at the time (if they even existed in sentient form). This includes the Mannadi, Golim, and Pipolsid. The only ones with any advancement would have been the ancestors of the Fenrias and Historians. And the Historians would not give away such info....
Just how many civilisations existed at the time of the Fall?...

Many of the natively-evolved intelligent races had starflight-level technology at some point during the Dreiman-Soia epochs; the Fenrias were the only ones who started this period with it, but by the end, most had it, including the Tizik-tik Umiak, Mannadi, Lurs, Tithric, Jilaad, and a number of species that are now extinct. It seems clear that either the Dreiman or Soia (or both) actively worked to uplift these civilizations, even though under the Soia regime, such species were effectively quarantined on their homeworlds. During the cataclysm that ended the era, every world that had such technology was bombarded to the destruction of that technological culture, and sometimes to the extinction of the species (and sometimes of all life on the planet).

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Many of the natively-evolved intelligent races had starflight-level technology at some point during the Dreiman-Soia epochs; the Fenrias were the only ones who started this period with it, but by the end, most had it, including the Tizik-tik Umiak, Mannadi, Lurs, Tithric, Jilaad, and a number of species that are now extinct. It seems clear that either the Dreiman or Soia (or both) actively worked to uplift these civilizations, even though under the Soia regime, such species were effectively quarantined on their homeworlds. During the cataclysm that ended the era, every world that had such technology was bombarded to the destruction of that technological culture, and sometimes to the extinction of the species (and sometimes of all life on the planet).


Poor Tithric :( Well, third time's the charm, guys, don't lose hope...


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During the cataclysm that ended the era, every world that had such technology was bombarded to the destruction of that technological culture, and sometimes to the extinction of the species (and sometimes of all life on the planet).

Wild guess: It wasn't cataclysm. Soia ended their experiment (whatever it was) and just revert changes, clean up workspace and collect garbage.

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Arioch wrote:
During the cataclysm that ended the era, every world that had such technology was bombarded to the destruction of that technological culture, and sometimes to the extinction of the species (and sometimes of all life on the planet).

Wild guess: It wasn't cataclysm. Soia ended their experiment (whatever it was) and just revert changes, clean up workspace and collect garbage.


Why abandon the place afterwards then?

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Why abandon the place afterwards then?

Perhaps it's an elaborate way of obtaining new technologies, by forcing species to develop them on their own absent the influence of their overlord?

Or perhaps it was some sort of purge of machine intelligence, which was feared enough to destroy all technological worlds, causing the ruin of their society and species.
Or a galactic exodus for cultural/spiritual reasons, which demanded that none be able to follow them.
Or some external power decided to wipe them out, and didn't care about settling their vacated territory.

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Wild guess: It wasn't cataclysm. Soia ended their experiment (whatever it was) and just revert changes, clean up workspace and collect garbage.


And then started their new experiment and stepped off the stage to see how it progressed.


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SVlad wrote:
Wild guess: It wasn't cataclysm. Soia ended their experiment (whatever it was) and just revert changes, clean up workspace and collect garbage.


And then started their new experiment and stepped off the stage to see how it progressed.


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Why abandon the place afterwards then?

You don't live in laboratory especially when work is done. :)

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SVlad wrote:
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Why abandon the place afterwards then?

You don't live in laboratory especially when work is done. :)


They're gonna be pissed when they come back into work the next morning and find out that all the fungus they were growing has broken out of its enclosures and is doing battle all over their nice floor.


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I noticed that loroi day "tibos" is divided into 21 (3x7) cycles "digel", so how do loroi manage logistics of their force around day?

Do they use

rotation of 3 crews:
7 cycles for work, self maintenance (study & recreation) and rest

or maybe

7 tasks per day, 3 cycles per task:
example of day: light duty (exercise & breakfast), heavy duty, light duty (study & lunch), heavy duty, recreation, 2 sleep

or is it done in style

you stand at guard whole tibo, because your commander hates you.

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I noticed that loroi day "tibos" is divided into 21 (3x7) cycles "digel", so how do loroi manage logistics of their force around day?

It varies according to the unit and situation. Most large ships will normally operate on a three-watch system, in which each crewman stands a 7-digel duty watch, and then divides a 14-digel off-watch period between other duties, personal time, and sleep. Smaller ships may have to break up watches so that half rather than one third of the crew is on watch at any given time. During combat alert there will a different watch schedule (often half the crew on and half off a shorter watch schedule), and at battle stations every available crewman will be on duty.

Loroi only eat one meal per day, so eating is not a major part of the watch structure.

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I was still wondering why the heck system based on 3x7?

Our measure of time and angles is based to 6 as 4x6 and 10x6, which can be divided many ways into practical numbers.
Then I though it does become 3x8 system by having douple crews with each first and finishing digel and 13-digel off-watch period.

But then I realized I m thinking this too much, but because I already took the effort write this, so I don't see any reason to delete it.
Maybe 7 is just lucky number for them like for us.

But eating only one meal per day. Now I wonder if they prefer eating before sleep, for more effective metabolism or after sleep, for higher sugar level (energy) at duty?
And now I m imagining Beryl with bellybump. :lol:

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