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On the plate before him you see one cut in half.
Looks like a Scotch Egg, although the minced meat is green.

Those blue oval things on the plate next to the green food stuff remind me of something...

...oh my!


New personal head cannon. The Loroi gave Alex Barsam sacs to eat as a cruel joke.

I think it's a sibreg - a Soia-Liron fruit. And only thing, that Alex labeled edible.

The eyeball-thing?

Cut open it looks like an avocado with a weirdly pocked skin to me...

Krulle wrote:The eyeball-thing?
Cut open it looks like an avocado with a weirdly pocked skin to me...

Actually the first line is
green thing - edible
and second
eyeball thing - no way

The only green thing here is this avocadolike fruit. The one of boxes labeled sibreg, so I think it is it.

Krulle wrote:May just be a grape-like cluster of berries....

In a similar way as raspberry's are are anther possibility.

Zorg56 wrote:Is this a common fruit?

Yes, it's called "sibreg." It's similar to a cantaloupe, with a tough knobbly skin. It is produced by a small bush-like plant with thick, succulent leaves that can grow in almost any environment, including very arid conditions.

Arioch wrote:

Zorg56 wrote:Is this a common fruit?

Yes, it's called "sibreg." It's similar to a cantaloupe, with a tough knobbly skin. It is produced by a small bush-like plant with thick, succulent leaves that can grow in almost any environment, including very arid conditions.

Do they grow these on-ship? Seems like it would be ideal.

boldilocks wrote:

Arioch wrote:

Zorg56 wrote:Is this a common fruit?

Yes, it's called "sibreg." It's similar to a cantaloupe, with a tough knobbly skin. It is produced by a small bush-like plant with thick, succulent leaves that can grow in almost any environment, including very arid conditions.

Do they grow these on-ship? Seems like it would be ideal.

Not commonly. When there is space and infrastructure for an arboretum, they more commonly grow fungi, which don't require sunlight.

How common are these arboretums? I doubt there are any real need for them in most cases and as such, maybe you want to grow something more interesting then fungi in some cases. Lack of sunlight isn't a problem with artificial light. It is a bit of a headteacher how arboretums are depicted in SciFi they tend to either be way to small or look like traditional (thou round) greenhouses sticking out of the hull of the ship. Often enough are these broken for drama instead. A traditional greenhouse are USELESS in deep space. A space station orbiting a sun could have them if they are close enough or have added mirrors to funnel in more light.

If I where to design an SCi FI arboretum on a starship it would use artificial light and it would probably exist all over the ship in that you would see plants growing in many places where there is spare room and it would have an positive psychological effect. Larger ones for food production would indeed be fungi but also some for luxury like some home grown berries to add to you food plate. They may have little nutritional value being to little for that but again they help breaking up the bore of all that fungi. The crew could also be suggested to grow plants in their cabins.

Sweforce wrote:How common are these arboretums? I doubt there are any real need for them in most cases and as such, maybe you want to grow something more interesting then fungi in some cases. Lack of sunlight isn't a problem with artificial light.

They tend to be ad hoc setups where there is unused space; empty cargo holds or the like. They're not used as a major food source, but rather as a source of fresh fruits and vegetables to supplement preserved rations. Much of the preserved rations include Soia-Liron fruits and vegetables (which store fairly well), so arboretums tend to grow more exotic items. Perrein fungoids are popular because they don't require artificial lights, and because it's often the Perrein natives who bother to cook their own food. The fungoids are quite diverse and exotic.

Sweforce wrote:If I where to design an SCi FI arboretum on a starship it would use artificial light and it would probably exist all over the ship in that you would see plants growing in many places where there is spare room and it would have an positive psychological effect. Larger ones for food production would indeed be fungi but also some for luxury like some home grown berries to add to you food plate. They may have little nutritional value being to little for that but again they help breaking up the bore of all that fungi. The crew could also be suggested to grow plants in their cabins.

Aboard a warship, having plants all over the place might present a problem in combat, as momentary fluctuations in gravity could send water and soil flying into sensitive machinery. I think you'd want to keep them contained in a separate space.

Perrein fungoids are popular because they don't require artificial lights, and because it's often the Perrein natives who bother to cook their own food. The fungoids are quite diverse and exotic.

Just curious. We've seen how disagreeable Soia-liron based foods are with Alex, (and by possible extension all other humans?) but how compatible would these Perrein native fungoids and other food items be with a Human?

Dorfington wrote:

Perrein fungoids are popular because they don't require artificial lights, and because it's often the Perrein natives who bother to cook their own food. The fungoids are quite diverse and exotic.

Just curious. We've seen how disagreeable Soia-liron based foods are with Alex, (and by possible extension all other humans?) but how compatible would these Perrein native fungoids and other food items be with a Human?

I guess we'll probably see!

Arioch wrote:

Dorfington wrote:

Perrein fungoids are popular because they don't require artificial lights, and because it's often the Perrein natives who bother to cook their own food. The fungoids are quite diverse and exotic.

Just curious. We've seen how disagreeable Soia-liron based foods are with Alex, (and by possible extension all other humans?) but how compatible would these Perrein native fungoids and other food items be with a Human?

I guess we'll probably see!

Conversely, will loroi try human food and die in a puke-fountain of blood? Maybe they'll try a hamburger and have their heart immediately explode.

Arioch wrote:

Dorfington wrote:

Perrein fungoids are popular because they don't require artificial lights, and because it's often the Perrein natives who bother to cook their own food. The fungoids are quite diverse and exotic.

Just curious. We've seen how disagreeable Soia-liron based foods are with Alex, (and by possible extension all other humans?) but how compatible would these Perrein native fungoids and other food items be with a Human?

I guess we'll probably see!

Is that a spoiler that the Perrein fungoids have penetrated the sterile hull of the rations?

I just saw this, and noticed one of the example images....

https://tvtropes.org/pmwiki/pmwiki.php/Main/SpaceElves

Sorry if you all have already seen it.

A couple of questions.

Can/do males go about their business in cities unattended? What's the ratio of caretakers to males like?

In a civilians life, is there at some point guaranteed private time with a male similar to the end of the diral for warriors?

If guilds are strongly family businesses, can crafty guilds enable their members to procreate by growing its business? Hollywood accounting included, naturally.

Do civilian children grow up in creches or is it common for their mothers to be more directly involved?

To preface these remarks: although warrior lifestyle is regimented and somewhat uniform across Loroi society, civilian life varies significantly depending on the era, location, and individual circumstance. A civilian may have even more control over her own lifestyle than a warrior ever could, or she might have even less.

Werra wrote:Can/do males go about their business in cities unattended? What's the ratio of caretakers to males like?

That depends on what their "business" is. Most Loroi males are fairly high status, and so while they can run errands in town, it's unlikely that most would. The number of attendants per male varies depending on profession and status, but few males would need to shop for their own groceries. Some of the monastic orders may have rules about where its members can go and when, but in general there are not external rules forbidding males from appearing unattended in public... except maybe in the most conservative of locales.

Werra wrote:In a civilians life, is there at some point guaranteed private time with a male similar to the end of the diral for warriors?

Not guaranteed, no. Many civilian females will never be allowed to reproduce. It depends on the location and circumstance; in wartime in a place like Maia, most civilians will get a chance to mate. In peacetime in a place like Deinar, very few civilian females will ever get a chance.

Werra wrote:If guilds are strongly family businesses, can crafty guilds enable their members to procreate by growing its business? Hollywood accounting included, naturally.

A very successful female guildmaster may reach high enough status earn the privilege of having children, but beyond that guilds are rarely "family" businesses. Most civilian females were born to warrior mothers, but quit or failed the trials, and so most of her fellow guild members will be of no relation to her.

Werra wrote:Do civilian children grow up in creches or is it common for their mothers to be more directly involved?

It depends. Large guilds will have communal creches, but small companies or self-employed individuals may take a more personal role in child rearing.

Arioch wrote:Most civilian females were born to warrior mothers, but quit or failed the trials, and so most of her fellow guild members will be of no relation to her.

Doesn't it have negative impact on whole civilian business?
It sounds like most civilians feels themselves as losers, who was born to be a proud warriors, but failed exams and doomed to a shameful civil work. What does motivate them to work, if whatever they do, they will remain second-class people?

SVlad wrote:

Arioch wrote:Most civilian females were born to warrior mothers, but quit or failed the trials, and so most of her fellow guild members will be of no relation to her.

Doesn't it have negative impact on whole civilian business?
It sounds like most civilians feels themselves as losers, who was born to be a proud warriors, but failed exams and doomed to a shameful civil work. What does motivate them to work, if whatever they do, they will remain second-class people?

This is a good point and it is even sop bad that the government rather contract some work to their allies rater then to get their own "looser" civilians get a shot at it.

Arioch wrote:Large guilds will have communal creches, but small companies or self-employed individuals may take a more personal role in child rearing.

We then get to the question of how a self employed loroi get the right to breed.