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Have a wonderful end of the year all, a parting gift for 2018 went up:
http://well-of-souls.com/outsider/outsider144.html
http://well-of-souls.com/outsider/outsider145.html
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Have a happy new year!
Same to you all! Best wishes!

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"Yes. Arrir Talon says that is intentional."

Goodness, what are the odds of that bus flying through space and hitting Arrir Talon. :P

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Old Year pages! :D

Best wishes folks.

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hi hi

I'm sure Alex feels super thrilled about getting tossed right back into a cramped little box, but at least this time he might have company. Perhaps not company he'd want to be stuck with, in the case of Fireblade.

Maybe we'll get to learn about some sort of Loroi passtimes while they're sitting around? Or maybe Alex will have to introduce them to the game of poker? (I suppose he probably doesn't have any cards though.)

Also, here's hoping for good things for everyone in the new year!


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If he is going in there alone he should worry if he is with Beryl I am sure he will have all the time needed for more science like in page 134 am I right Arioch?


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I'm sure Alex feels super thrilled about getting tossed right back into a cramped little box, but at least this time he might have company. Perhaps not company he'd want to be stuck with, in the case of Fireblade.

If Alex is thinking about being in close quarters with Fireblade, there are bound to be remarks about her restraint made. I suppose we'll see if they start down the path of reconciliation or not.
Who knows, maybe we'll get to see Fireblades first words in this comic.

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I'm betting on a game of crossfire coming soon!!! :D

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icekatze wrote:
I'm sure Alex feels super thrilled about getting tossed right back into a cramped little box, but at least this time he might have company. Perhaps not company he'd want to be stuck with, in the case of Fireblade.

Maybe we'll get to learn about some sort of Loroi passtimes while they're sitting around? Or maybe Alex will have to introduce them to the game of poker? (I suppose he probably doesn't have any cards though.)


Who's up for a rousing game of throwing knives at eachother?


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"Conserve energy" by sharing a besai?


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The Loroi probably won’t need a blanket when Alex’ body produces 36.5–37.5 °C (97.7–99.5 °F) heat in a confined space. Keeping Alex warm/comfortable is probably a good thing though...


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Zarya wrote:
The Loroi probably won’t need a blanket when Alex’ body produces 36.5–37.5 °C (97.7–99.5 °F) heat in a confined space. Keeping Alex warm/comfortable is probably a good thing though...


Who's gonna be on rubbing duty?


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There’re two more pages up on Patreon – and my lips remain sealed :D


Tue Jan 01, 2019 6:54 am
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Jardin going to be used as a heating blanket SOON(tm)!


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My bet is that he will be tricked and locked in almost immediately. Which will leave him more than just a bit ticked off.


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My bet is that he will be tricked and locked in almost immediately. Which will leave him more than just a bit ticked off.

"Please stay in here with the strike force's pet mascot, Captain. We will handle the rest."


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hi hi

boldilocks wrote:
"Please stay in here with the strike force's pet mascot, Captain. We will handle the rest."
Or maybe Captain Jardin will be the new strike force pet mascot? :lol:


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I am not sure that stress, enforced close quarters, an extended period of microgravity, an induced tumble, and continuing GI issues are going to enhance Alex's ability to win friends and influence sophonts. Frankly, I'm amazed at his ability to remain on task despite the long-term, dietary-induced distress to date.


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hi hi

Leopold wrote:
...enforced close quarters...
I'm reminded of the Red Dwarf episode Quarantine, where the exchange went something like:
"We already spend most of our time together anyway."
"Yeah, but we knew we could leave at any time."

On the other hand, perhaps Alex is cut from the same steel as the Apollo astronauts. I'm pretty sure I wouldn't be able to spend that much time in a phone booth sized tin can with two other people without either going nuts or having gone through rigorous training.

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...long-term, dietary-induced distress...
This is a big deal in real life, but hopefully the Soia-Liron put as much generic amino acids and vitamers into their super foods as they could and that Alex wont get scurvy.


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Well, I hope Jardin will be able to bring some skills to assist the Loroi in their current predicament because right now, he's more or less a liability.

As for Fireblade, I don't think she hates the guy. More like he's an unknown factor due to his resistance, maybe near-immunity, to Loroi telepathy and any soldier worth his/her salt will always be wary of unknown factors, not to mention that she's the head of security if I remember right and she has every right to be cautious because if anything happens, it'll be on her head.

That doesn't explain why she's the only one visible in Jardin's mind when he and Beryl had their mental probe(?) session though. Did she imprint herself in his mind? If so, why? Accidental imprinting? Claiming Jardin as her 'waifu'?


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It might be a little to soon to have Jardin save the day. I think we'll have to wait a bit and watch the ladies do their thing.

Fireblade just strikes me as being tired of the whole situation. It's not personal towards Jardin or anything. She's just tired of the whole war and seems to wanna be left alone. Now she have to drag around some alien that popped up from nowhere so isn't going to help her mood. I don't think she's worried or threatened by him just sick of him. She'll come around though :) .

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That doesn't explain why she's the only one visible in Jardin's mind when he and Beryl had their mental probe(?) session though. Did she imprint herself in his mind? If so, why? Accidental imprinting? Claiming Jardin as her 'waifu'?


Jardin could sense Fireblade before the interrogation aswell so i don't think we need to assume some special connection between the pair. It's more likely that her psionic presence is so great that even those who are mute to it normally subconsciously picks up on it.

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Ok... my theories...

I say theories cause this is mostly supposition.. I REALLY do not have any wealth of evidence to back it up..mostly because the comic has been running for years but we have so little to go one right now...

When Jardin first encountered the Loroi in the medical lab he awoke with a start from a burning presence he 'sensed'... p.19 panel 3 we see Fireblade.. her expression was not one of disgust or anger but one of shock. Panel 4 her expression one of perhaps expectant curiosity? The next close up on Fireblade is on page 20, panel 3 ~ There is the expression of guarded suspicion. Her next expression is shared with Beryl on the next page 21, panel 4 ~ yes its a 'what the hell is he talking about?'... but what is to note she is not glaring at him in utter disbelief or clear hostility. The next time we close up on Fireblade is on p. 23 when it seems both her and Beryl are in telepathic discussion with Stillstorm... note there is no anger, suspicion or even malice in Fireblade's expression. The next p. 24 Fireblade's expression is serious... but not suspicions.. actually rather neutral it doesn't convey much of her feelings. Pages 25, 26 show Fireblade but again no hints to her feelings in her expression both being neutral. Now page 27... lots going on here ~ Fireblade's expression in panel 1 is one not really of anger but perhaps guarded caution... almost concern.. it looks like she does not want to harm the strange male creature.. but its Jardin's description that more telling ~ 'her touch was almost gentle'. Now her expression in panel 3 is one of either anger or frustration but certainly intense concentration but also to note Jardin is showing us bits of his personality with him joking about in the face of clear hardship. Now p. 32...Fireblade enters his cell alone.. her expression in panel 1 its mixed kind of a curious readiness to see what he new reaction to her now would be.. clearly there is anger in Jardin's expression. In panel 4 lots going on here but its subtle...clearly Fireblade it trying to intimidate with her presence her expression serious and I was say focused... she seems to be meeting Jardin's eyes... but I get the distinct impression she is not use to meeting a males gaze at the same height cause Jardin is only slight shorter than her.. and she seems to not be sure she likes meeting a male who is comparable to her in height! But Jardin's reaction is not to cower but to meet her stance for stance gaze for gaze... something I'm sure that is showing Fireblade... this male may be confined..but his is Certainly NOT Cowed or intimidated...she understands his words 'what do you want'.. and the expression on her face is somewhat of frustration in the context of his words. She may not know what she wants but clear defiance from him is certainly not it!

Now from this point on Fireblade does not give anything away expression-wise her visage is neutral until p. 45 where she shoves Jardin with TK... both panels 4 and 6 she is not angry or offended..6 there is just the slightest hint of a smile in amusement ...clearly Jardin thinks so.

My point. later on when Jardin is escorted to the shuttle he tries to get a reaction out of Fireblade... she is clearly put off by his irreverent, joking, talkative nature so opposite of her serious intense nature...

And THAT is my point.. I think Jardin and Fireblade are opposites personality wise... but often times opposites attract for both see unconsciously the thing in their personality that is missing the thing they refuse to accept... Jardin the serious and Fireblade the jest and settled back way of approaching life. I think the heart knows more of what one needs to feel complete than the head EVER does. I think the reason why Jardin can sense Fireblade is because indeed... his heart recognizes her as something he needs...

I'm the FIRST person to say 'Love at First' sight is just a bunch of bunk... until, damn it, it happened to me. The same thing my father tells me it happened to him with my mother who he married and stay with until her death 2 years ago. 48 good years!

Now Jardin does not realize it yet, in fact neither did I when it happened to me.. I denied it to myself for months.. until I realized everytime I closed my eyes her face was there, but the Loroi are telepathic and Fireblade powerful even among the loroi so I think that specialness that is her that resounds to Jardin's heart bleeds over... they don't like each other righ tnow.. and in fact my mother told my father She WOULD NEVER MARRY him..despite the year in college he pursued her..lol.. but I'm hopeful....

No I think there is more to Jardin's ability to sense Fireblade than just her being a powerful psionic... no I think its deeper than that.

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I think you are putting way too much thought into this. And you are way too romantic about it too.

In my opinion, it's clearly the common "Warrior male meets independent woman" trope played out in reverse, and not much more. In her eyes, Alex is a "male" who claims to be a warrior, isn't quickly bullied like those weak breeder males, and seems to have proven himself capable of taking punishment, both from her and the universe at large. She respects that, but she also feels like she has to knock him down a peg to keep her world-view intact, even if she knows he's not a Loroi and the rules dont apply.

Keep in mind that Alex is probably quite unattractive to the sensibilities of the average Loroi, he's neither small, nor fragile, nor does he follow what "Maleness" entails to a Loroi. If anything, he's going to remind her of her female comrades, maybe the ones who died on that ship. I have the suspicion her character development will come from there, not a romantic relationship.


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Alex is probably quite unattractive to the sensibilities of the average Loroi

That's really important and a very good point. Just imagine Beryl as super butch.


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And yet, there are plenty Human males I know of who prefer muscular, flat-chested, large women over usual Playboy models....
Kinks vary, and I presume the same may be true for Loroi.
On top of that, someone who has been in very dire circumstances learnt first hand how advantageous a self-sufficient partner is, and not having to care for a helpless , dependent second person as well.....

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And yet, there are plenty Human males I know of who prefer muscular, flat-chested, large women over usual Playboy models....
Kinks vary, and I presume the same may be true for Loroi.
On top of that, someone who has been in very dire circumstances learnt first hand how advantageous a self-sufficient partner is, and not having to care for a helpless , dependent second person as well.....

true although I am sure everyone would prefer interdependence in the grand scheme of things unlike Alex who looks like he is about to be given the dead weight treatment


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