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Absalom wrote: Warhead launchers are probably the lower-performance cousin of the torpedo launcher (and the higher performance cousin of the Mk.1 boot). --- My guess is that they're utilitarian in purpose.
That's essentially correct. I can understand the confusion, as my nomenclature for the missile launch systems isn't very well worked out. I should be able to clean this up a bit when the Ship Systems page is finished.

On most Loroi vessels, torpedoes are carried on standardized racks and are launched by essentially kicking them out of a door; the torpedo's maneuvering thrusters propel it to a safe distance from the firing ship at which point the main drive is lit. These racks are not currently listed in the class manifests.

The "warhead launcher" is a multi-purpose launch tube used to give initial velocity to any projectile - torpedoes, AMM's, warheads. It is primarily used for launching warheads or "bombs", which are minimally-guided and will benefit from the boost, as they don't have a main drive. Bombs aren't listed in the ordnance list because they're basically just containers for starship fuel, which is drawn from the launching vessel's engines, so they're very inexpensive and generally on hand.

A "torpedo launcher" is a higher-performance version of the same thing specialized for torpedoes.

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Arioch wrote:
Absalom wrote: Warhead launchers are probably the lower-performance cousin of the torpedo launcher (and the higher performance cousin of the Mk.1 boot). --- My guess is that they're utilitarian in purpose.
That's essentially correct. I can understand the confusion, as my nomenclature for the missile launch systems isn't very well worked out. I should be able to clean this up a bit when the Ship Systems page is finished.

On most Loroi vessels, torpedoes are carried on standardized racks and are launched by essentially kicking them out of a door; the torpedo's maneuvering thrusters propel it to a safe distance from the firing ship at which point the main drive is lit. These racks are not currently listed in the class manifests.

The "warhead launcher" is a multi-purpose launch tube used to give initial velocity to any projectile - torpedoes, AMM's, warheads. It is primarily used for launching warheads or "bombs", which are minimally-guided and will benefit from the boost, as they don't have a main drive. Bombs aren't listed in the ordnance list because they're basically just containers for starship fuel, which is drawn from the launching vessel's engines, so they're very inexpensive and generally on hand.

A "torpedo launcher" is a higher-performance version of the same thing specialized for torpedoes.
Thanks for the clarification. I'd suggest an appendix to the weapon pages ... or maybe just adding the information to the Q&A section on the Shipboard Weapon Profile page until you've gotten the Ship Systems page up; though I'm not quite sure if launchers should be under Ship Systems rather than Shipboard Weapons. :/

Sidenote: The Blaze-class Frigate has a torpedo launcher, but no torpedoes listed. :?

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javcs wrote:
Arioch wrote:On most Loroi vessels, torpedoes are carried on standardized racks and are launched by essentially kicking them out of a door; the torpedo's maneuvering thrusters propel it to a safe distance from the firing ship at which point the main drive is lit. These racks are not currently listed in the class manifests.
javcs wrote:Sidenote: The Blaze-class Frigate has a torpedo launcher, but no torpedoes listed. :?
Just a guess, but I'd suspect that most of the Blaze class currently have empty ordnance racks, and that the torpedoes aren't listed because they're no longer issued to ships of the class in any ordinary situation.

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Absalom wrote:
javcs wrote:
Arioch wrote:On most Loroi vessels, torpedoes are carried on standardized racks and are launched by essentially kicking them out of a door; the torpedo's maneuvering thrusters propel it to a safe distance from the firing ship at which point the main drive is lit. These racks are not currently listed in the class manifests.
javcs wrote:Sidenote: The Blaze-class Frigate has a torpedo launcher, but no torpedoes listed. :?
Just a guess, but I'd suspect that most of the Blaze class currently have empty ordnance racks, and that the torpedoes aren't listed because they're no longer issued to ships of the class in any ordinary situation.
I can buy that, I suppose. It does look a bit as though they'd likely not last real long in the ranges where Loroi doctrine usually employs torpedoes, and any torps that they hadn't launched would likely be lost with the ship.

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Mmm... I'm guessing either a Warhammer or Cutlass class ship, with the latter more likely because it has slower acceleration (no need for speed as escort of a supply fleet).
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Why would Beryl think Alex would appreciate that security detail? Is she making some sort of assumption based on Loroi gender roles? Also, does she not understand why Alex would be uncomfortable around Fireblade, or is Beryl keeping a stiff upper lip and while sanzaing, "Alright people, we are going to avoid any unnecessary incidents. We're going to have a nice, uneventful trip, with no one being telekinetically hurled into bulkheads or undergoing spontaneous interrogations. I know you were under orders, Fireblade. I'm not blaming you."

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VictorValor wrote:Why would Beryl think Alex would appreciate that security detail? Is she making some sort of assumption based on Loroi gender roles? Also, does she not understand why Alex would be uncomfortable around Fireblade, or is Beryl keeping a stiff upper lip and while sanzaing, "Alright people, we are going to avoid any unnecessary incidents. We're going to have a nice, uneventful trip, with no one being telekinetically hurled into bulkheads or undergoing spontaneous interrogations. I know you were under orders, Fireblade. I'm not blaming you."
For all you know Beryl could be only a devious manipulator who seeks nothing more to pull every last bit of information from poor Jardin's brain (and eventually body...) and Fireblade is the character who's voluntarily putting herself out there to ensure nothing funny happens.
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Ktrain wrote:For all you know Beryl could be only a devious manipulator who seeks nothing more to pull every last bit of information from poor Jardin's brain (and eventually body...) and Fireblade is the character who's voluntarily putting herself out there to ensure nothing funny happens.
I'll bet she's a major on that. :lol:
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Ktrain wrote:For all you know Beryl could be only a devious manipulator who seeks nothing more to pull every last bit of information from poor Jardin's brain (and eventually body...) and Fireblade is the character who's voluntarily putting herself out there to ensure nothing funny happens.
I don't think that Beryl is devious or manipulative, yet I still think the rest of this is perfectly reasonable. Remember everybody: the interpretation of "xenophilic" for Beryl's character sheet isn't related to her sexual interests :twisted: .

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I expect that most Listel live by the mantra "she who dies with the most information, wins".

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I was thinking more along the lines of vivisection...
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javcs wrote:
Jericho wrote:
Aygar wrote:I wonder what type of ship Alex and co are transferring to? Beryl said it was an escort but that could be any thing from a Cutlass Light Cruiser to a Herald Courier Corvette.
My guess would be a Blaze Frigate because it is fast, it is likely to be escorting a supply column, and it is more likely to have space for extra passengers and cargo then a Courier.

What does everyone else think?

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I'm hoping it's a halberd class ship. Just love the design of it and would get all giddy if we where to see it. :D
Not gonna be a Halberd - those are battleships - I'm sure we'll see them if/when Alex finally gets to Loroi systems.

In no particular order (other than the order they're on teh Insider page in), the possibilities that I see as being the top five: Rapier-class Escort Cruiser, Cutlass-class Light Cruiser, Warhammer-class Destroyer, Curved Knife-class Destroyer, or Blaze-class Frigate. I'd say that a Cutlass is least likely, being the slowest, and apparently relegated to defense fleets, as it's too slow to keep up with the raider fleets
Technically, I suppose transfer to a Hidden Dagger-class Scout or Herald-class Courier are remotely theoretical possibilities as well, however, neither has a shuttle bay, and Arioch doesn't have even a profile image up on the Insider.


Hrmmm ... of my probable top-five, I find anomalies in several.
What's the difference between a "Warhead Launcher" and a "Torpedo Launcher"? The Blaze-class apparently has one of each, in addition to an AMM Launcher. The Curved Knife apparently has two "Warhead Launchers" in addition to its AMM Launcher; the Cutlass has a Warhead Launcher as well; and the Warhammer has a "Warhead Launcher", but has torpedoes on its ordnance list.

Under the presumption that Arioch would have spent somewhat more time, effort, and attention to detail on whichever class of ship Alex is being transferred to ... it would seem likely that he would have noticed such anomalies, although it's always possible that since he knew what it was supposed to say, something slipped through during the editing process.
The Herald-class Courier now has a profile image. :)
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Aygar wrote:The Herald-class Courier now has a profile image. :)
Ominous...
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GeoModder wrote:
Aygar wrote:The Herald-class Courier now has a profile image. :)
Ominous...
Not really. It's a recent addition, and I'd expect that whatever ship Alex is being transferred to would have been worked out significantly in advance. That's to say, whatever ship Alex is actually going to wind up on would have been worked out in advance. They could be intending to transfer him to different ship, but circumstances could force a change of plans.

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Mmm... no. Seeing as how the Highland is still in the process of being created, I think Arioch builds assets as the story gets there.
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geo: building the details, yes, 'a shuttle craft' was probably what it looked like on the original story board, maybe getting a name and some details later.....what he will be traveling on has probably been decided a few years back, if i know Arioch.

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