Tamri wrote:However, Insider says that Historians plasmathrower has a different focus mechanism. Plus, Loroi PPC also obtained from Historians (and directly, actually) and its color - blue.
Sure, but if the Historians were trying to play Umiak and Loroi off of each other - which is a great move in their position - or if they previously supported the Hierarchy, but decided they'd rather not be gobbled up by the fanatic collectivist bugs and backed the Loroi - then they would
probably not give both sides plasma technology that can be easily identified as the same stuff.
And since we know they're super-advanced, I wouldn't really put it past them to be able to throw together an example plasma focus with entirely different technological lineage, invented out of whole cloth, for the Loroi to study; assuming that they don't actually have more than one Focus technology in their libraries.
You can certainly assume that Historians have sold / transferred technology plasma cannons to Umiak (with, at least, for 30 years of pre-war period), but it has drawn to a serious complication. Occam doesn't agree, in short.
The problem with Occam's Razor is that people who apply it are very often
wrong, triply so when you get into the arenas of politics, espionage, and narrative fiction, all of which we are dealing here. The simplest explanation, quite simply, is
not likely to be correct in any of those cases, and the Historian seems shady as hell to me.
dragoongfa wrote:That could also be a dig to an unseen Historian accusation that the Loroi fired on yet an other species (which is how the war with the Hierarchy started), the Historian saying that it is not precise intelligence may be the construct's way of trying to save face.
It
may be... But even if the Loroi shot first, it was pretty clearly a manufactured incident to give the bugs casus belli to launch a prepared invasion. If some Canadian boat did something stupid that got a US Coast Guard vessel to open fire and suddenly tens of thousands of angry Canucks were riding their Battle Moose into New York state, it would be transparently obvious that even if the U.S. shot first, there was a huge red, white, and maple syrupy shenanigan going on.
You don't have a prepared invasion force ready to go with their dancing shoes laced up on the
off-chance the other guy decides they want to have a shooting war.
Also the Historian Plasma weapons are a far more advanced variant of the Loroi Pulse Cannons which should translate to a blue color.
Perhaps, perhaps not. We don't know what elements go into a plasma foci's color, and that's disregarding the possibility that the Historians intentionally obfuscated the traces of their technology-sharing deals by giving the Hierarchy and Union different branches of plasma focus tech, which, frankly, I consider to be the likely possibility if they've been playing both sides.
Jethreuel wrote:Regarding Tempo's reaction and tilt to the Historian, I noticed that as well, but since the forum does not date that far back, I was unsure whether that has been discussed and resolved.
Like I said, it seems like she suspects shenanigans. And when someone like Tempo suspects shenanigans, betting against shenanigans is a sucker's bet.