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What is the maximum detection range is thinking for the average Loroi / Farseer? Detection somehow correlated with mental activity detectable or it does not depend on?

Establishment of wide channel requires just a touch, or simply need very close to bring the limb?

For the expansion of suggested Loroi detection range using technics or medicament's? Or the one and the other? Did Loroi projects implant versions amplifiers, neuro-contacts and shunts for direct connection to a computer? How they have developed implants, bionics and how widely it use? If not, the matter is that the tradition or mentality?

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Ok, so I finally have a question to ask: what's the written symbol for talent? What it looks like?

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Tamri wrote:What is the maximum detection range is thinking for the average Loroi / Farseer? Detection somehow correlated with mental activity detectable or it does not depend on?
The range of signature detection varies greatly depending on the sensitivity of the individual Loroi telepathy and whether that sensitivity is being amplified with mechanical devices or drugs. Detecting the mind of another sending telepathy is automatic within the range of the sender's message, but if the target is not actively sending, then for most unaugmented Loroi a purely passive detection normally has a range of only a few meters. Non-telepathic mental activity (thinking hard vs. being unconscious) does not have a significant impact on detection range.
Tamri wrote:Establishment of wide channel requires just a touch, or simply need very close to bring the limb?
It's a continuum rather than a binary on/off connection. The bandwidth of a telepathic connection increases as the participants move closer together; it increases with physical contact (even through clothing or armor), and is at maximum when there is skin-to-skin contact.
Tamri wrote:For the expansion of suggested Loroi detection range using technics or medicament's? Or the one and the other? Did Loroi projects implant versions amplifiers, neuro-contacts and shunts for direct connection to a computer? How they have developed implants, bionics and how widely it use? If not, the matter is that the tradition or mentality?
I won't go into the details (as this is something that will be addressed in the story), but as I mentioned, the farseers use both hardware amplification and drugs to increase their range and sensitivity.
Rookie17 wrote:Ok, so I finally have a question to ask: what's the written symbol for talent? What it looks like?
It's the abbreviation "MZ" (the Trade word for "talent" is mozé).

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Arioch wrote:
Suederwind wrote:
Suederwind wrote:Will Alex meet a Farseer someday?
Yes.

I wonder how disturbing would be the encounter for the Farseer, to have an almost-loroi looking alien just in front of her yet being unable to sense it.

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Arioch wrote: The range of signature detection varies greatly depending on the sensitivity of the individual Loroi telepathy and whether that sensitivity is being amplified with mechanical devices or drugs. Detecting the mind of another sending telepathy is automatic within the range of the sender's message, but if the target is not actively sending, then for most unaugmented Loroi a purely passive detection normally has a range of only a few meters. Non-telepathic mental activity (thinking hard vs. being unconscious) does not have a significant impact on detection range.
Hmm, it turns out, a passive detection distance from Loroi that psionics, that psychokinesis (electrokinesis, Pyrokinesis, etc.) doesn't exceed five-ten meters?

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Tamri wrote:
Arioch wrote: The range of signature detection varies greatly depending on the sensitivity of the individual Loroi telepathy and whether that sensitivity is being amplified with mechanical devices or drugs. Detecting the mind of another sending telepathy is automatic within the range of the sender's message, but if the target is not actively sending, then for most unaugmented Loroi a purely passive detection normally has a range of only a few meters. Non-telepathic mental activity (thinking hard vs. being unconscious) does not have a significant impact on detection range.
Hmm, it turns out, a passive detection distance from Loroi that psionics, that psychokinesis (electrokinesis, Pyrokinesis, etc.) doesn't exceed five-ten meters?
Some Loroi can sense psychokinesis in operation, but this is completely separate from detection of a telepathic signature.

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hi hi

Makes me wonder how far away humans can detect telepathic activity. Alex had some sort of reaction while he was being forcefully interrogated, after all.

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icekatze wrote:hi hi

Makes me wonder how far away humans can detect telepathic activity. Alex had some sort of reaction while he was being forcefully interrogated, after all.
I thought Arioch clarified that was due to telekinetic manipulation, not telepathy.

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cacambo43 wrote:
icekatze wrote:hi hi

Makes me wonder how far away humans can detect telepathic activity. Alex had some sort of reaction while he was being forcefully interrogated, after all.
I thought Arioch clarified that was due to telekinetic manipulation, not telepathy.

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His inability to breath and move was telekinetic, something akin to be held down while waterboarded. It is also obvious that the Teidar were also trying to telepathically overwhelm Alex as he panicked but they didn't get anything out of him even as he blacked out.

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Arioch wrote:It's the abbreviation "MZ" (the Trade word for "talent" is mozé).
Perhaps an M-Z ligature, like, say, this?

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hi hi

I remember that the telekinetic component was a large part of the interrogation, and that was why he felt like he seized up on page 27, but what I was referring to was on page 18, where he is hallucinating and seeing images of a burning point of light. I don't recall if that was specifically mentioned as a telekinetic effect or a telepathic one.

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Carl Miller wrote:
Arioch wrote:It's the abbreviation "MZ" (the Trade word for "talent" is mozé).
Perhaps an M-Z ligature, like, say, this?

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It looks like a person who is delighted to have found his ball. :D

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Nah, he's trying to make his Jo-jo go up again.
And is otherwise healthy.
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icekatze wrote:hi hi

I remember that the telekinetic component was a large part of the interrogation, and that was why he felt like he seized up on page 27, but what I was referring to was on page 18, where he is hallucinating and seeing images of a burning point of light. I don't recall if that was specifically mentioned as a telekinetic effect or a telepathic one.
I think that it is widely accepted that Fireblade 'leaks a lot' telepathically ;)

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Questions of general plan:

- How much (approximately) inhabited planets in the Union? "Populated" is considered a planet with a population of 500k+ and a history of at least 20-30 years (standard).

- R & D program of the Union are conducted on a common basis, such as our university system, among other things running in parallel in the development, or formed into special experimental research centers?

- What about the industrial centers? What technologies are most widely used in the production of streaming?

- How are thorough testing of new systems and schemes? Prototypes arrive in full force after finishing or as we have in the technological wars - a prototype to become operational after bringing to a workable condition, with lots of "children's sores"?

- What is the approximate speed of development and improvement of the technology in the Union? For example, how long it takes in the average from the stage "idea / operating time" until stage of "prototype"?

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Tamri wrote:How much (approximately) inhabited planets in the Union? "Populated" is considered a planet with a population of 500k+ and a history of at least 20-30 years (standard).
The Union contains roughly 150 inhabited worlds, of which about 40 have populations of more than 100 million. This includes both Loroi and alien populations.
Tamri wrote:R & D program of the Union are conducted on a common basis, such as our university system, among other things running in parallel in the development, or formed into special experimental research centers?
Loroi academic entities tend to be more compartmentalized, both because of the segregation of the caste system, and the reliance on telepathy for communication.
Tamri wrote:What about the industrial centers? What technologies are most widely used in the production of streaming?
I'm not sure what you mean by "streaming." Nanoscale materials fabrication and advanced 3D printing probably have a prominent role in the creation of parts, but more traditional casting, machining and assembly of parts will probably still have significant applications.
Tamri wrote: How are thorough testing of new systems and schemes? Prototypes arrive in full force after finishing or as we have in the technological wars - a prototype to become operational after bringing to a workable condition, with lots of "children's sores"?
It depends on the situation at the time. Normally there would be an extensive testing regime for new military hardware, but if there is an urgent need at the front, then much of the testing may be done in live combat.
Tamri wrote:What is the approximate speed of development and improvement of the technology in the Union? For example, how long it takes in the average from the stage "idea / operating time" until stage of "prototype"?
Slowly. Loroi technology reached a plateau around the end of the Third Mannadi War after which advancement slowed; at the start of the Umiak War, the Loroi were still using improved versions of more or less the same technologies (blasters, taimat, floater drive) that they'd been using for ~800 years. The Loroi have made significant advancements since the start of the war only with help from the Historians.

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Arioch wrote:[quote="Tamri"
Tamri wrote:What is the approximate speed of development and improvement of the technology in the Union? For example, how long it takes in the average from the stage "idea / operating time" until stage of "prototype"?
Slowly. Loroi technology reached a plateau around the end of the Third Mannadi War after which advancement slowed; at the start of the Umiak War, the Loroi were still using improved versions of more or less the same technologies (blasters, taimat, floater drive) that they'd been using for ~800 years. The Loroi have made significant advancements since the start of the war only with help from the Historians.
Would that be due to them being too comfortable with what they have say like Japan and Chine when they started isolating themselves?

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saint of m wrote:Would that be due to them being too comfortable with what they have say like Japan and Chine when they started isolating themselves?
Partly, but I think that it's reasonable if the advancement curve starts to flatten out above a certain tech level. The rate of knowledge gain is still increasing, but the amount of knowledge required for each new level of advancement is increasing exponentially.

If you think about what Human technology might be a thousand years from now, there are essentially two extremes: either technology continues to increase geometrically and we rapidly achieve godlike technology and become unrecognizable, or the curve starts to flatten out and new advances becomes increasingly more difficult, and society can go back to a state where change comes more slowly and culture becomes more stable.

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Arioch wrote:
saint of m wrote:Would that be due to them being too comfortable with what they have say like Japan and Chine when they started isolating themselves?
Partly, but I think that it's reasonable if the advancement curve starts to flatten out above a certain tech level. The rate of knowledge gain is still increasing, but the amount of knowledge required for each new level of advancement is increasing exponentially.

If you think about what Human technology might be a thousand years from now, there are essentially two extremes: either technology continues to increase geometrically and we rapidly achieve godlike technology and become unrecognizable, or the curve starts to flatten out and new advances becomes increasingly more difficult, and society can go back to a state where change comes more slowly and culture becomes more stable.
And that's why one needs more humans to research things faster.

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Arioch wrote: Partly, but I think that it's reasonable if the advancement curve starts to flatten out above a certain tech level. The rate of knowledge gain is still increasing, but the amount of knowledge required for each new level of advancement is increasing exponentially.

If you think about what Human technology might be a thousand years from now, there are essentially two extremes: either technology continues to increase geometrically and we rapidly achieve godlike technology and become unrecognizable, or the curve starts to flatten out and new advances becomes increasingly more difficult, and society can go back to a state where change comes more slowly and culture becomes more stable.
Not really. The accumulation of large amounts of all the knowledge required for fundamental breakthroughs, the rate of improvement has already studied technology and "elaboration" for open yet layers science goes faster, regardless of the level of development, only the number of people employed in research. Geniuses, at the right time in the right place can significantly accelerate both directions, but generally their rate of development is almost independent of each other.

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