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by novius
Mon Jun 03, 2019 5:58 am
Forum: Outsider Discussion
Topic: WIP Discussion (Part 1!)
Replies: 2709
Views: 1875769

Re: WIP Discussion (Part 1!)

It's a crude stick-figure with boobs, the world "Beryl", and an arrow. Obviously she's not going to be flattered. Worse - she now gets the visual proof that Loroi arguably have considerably less in the chest department than human women do have. At least that's what the contents of the tablet would ...
by novius
Sun Jun 02, 2019 2:11 pm
Forum: Outsider Discussion
Topic: Page 156: Dun... dun... DUUUUUUN
Replies: 74
Views: 35893

Re: Page 156: Dun... dun... DUUUUUUN

An infection via the Orgus indeed seems likely. With their technology level, that's not impossible, but if that were true, it raises a number of awkward questions. […] If they're able to move through Umiak space/systems with permission, why not just send humans straight to Umiak space? Five ships w...
by novius
Sun Jun 02, 2019 5:41 am
Forum: Outsider Discussion
Topic: Page 156: Dun... dun... DUUUUUUN
Replies: 74
Views: 35893

Re: Page 156: Dun... dun... DUUUUUUN

It's not quite so bleak. He knows that there was a battle in the system just when the Bell was shot down. He also knows that it took the Loroi several hours to find him. The predicament they're in righ now also definitely is real. So there are a lot of indicators that the story is true. I mean, if ...
by novius
Sat Jun 01, 2019 2:29 pm
Forum: Outsider Discussion
Topic: Page 156: Dun... dun... DUUUUUUN
Replies: 74
Views: 35893

Re: Page 156: Dun... dun... DUUUUUUN

I don't think any of the Loroi are directly lieing to Alex face. That doesn't seem to fit their culture. What seems to be happening are evasive answers. On page 106 for example Alex wonders whether the Loroi even want to meet humanity. Tempo, instead of feeding Alex a lie, tells him that the Loroi ...
by novius
Fri May 31, 2019 7:22 am
Forum: Outsider Discussion
Topic: Page 156: Dun... dun... DUUUUUUN
Replies: 74
Views: 35893

Re: Page 156: Dun... dun... DUUUUUUN

And Alex finally remembers that he's the sole surviving officer in hostile territory. Has he not received any sort of counterintelligence training at all? I can't be the only one that's taken note of Beryl and the other becoming so personable and nice so quickly. Beryl and Talon, you mean? Though, ...
by novius
Tue May 28, 2019 1:33 pm
Forum: Outsider Discussion
Topic: Page 156: Dun... dun... DUUUUUUN
Replies: 74
Views: 35893

Re: Page 156: Dun... dun... DUUUUUUN

The Historian construct could be telling the absolute truth. Everyone could be telling the absolute truth. As in... Tempo: "We are very interested in your species." (as a lab animal and on a dissection table) Construct: "The Loroi are NOT your friends." (we aren't, either. Nor the Barsam. You might...
by novius
Tue May 28, 2019 6:00 am
Forum: Outsider Discussion
Topic: Page 156: Dun... dun... DUUUUUUN
Replies: 74
Views: 35893

Re: Page 156: Dun... dun... DUUUUUUN

Another intepretation of the events comes to my mind. First, the late addition of Tempo to his entourage on the way to Seren was a bit ... too smooth. It's not just one, but two bridge officers leaving the ship in the midst of a hotbed, which is usually not a wise choice of action. Beryl as a Listel...
by novius
Tue May 28, 2019 4:33 am
Forum: Outsider Discussion
Topic: Page 156: Dun... dun... DUUUUUUN
Replies: 74
Views: 35893

Re: Page 156: Dun... dun... DUUUUUUN

Thing is, Beryl is frighteningly perceptive. She quickly picked up on the english spelling (or what Englishmen think to be 'spelling'), and quickly picks up on Alex's moods. It would be very difficult for him to keep things from her for long On the other hand, as a scientist, she's more prone to be ...
by novius
Mon May 27, 2019 1:34 pm
Forum: Outsider Discussion
Topic: Page 156: Dun... dun... DUUUUUUN
Replies: 74
Views: 35893

Re: Page 156: Dun... dun... DUUUUUUN

Now about "What do you have there?" This could be test of trust or something else, like "you have this stash of junk, let see what you do with it." Or genuine curiousness, like "I was expecting you to dress up, but instead you have found something interesting" We've already seen Beryl reacting poor...
by novius
Mon May 27, 2019 9:04 am
Forum: Outsider Discussion
Topic: Page 156: Dun... dun... DUUUUUUN
Replies: 74
Views: 35893

Re: Page 156: Dun... dun... DUUUUUUN

Though other hand, the Loroi are psychic and we got only their word of not being able to read/detect our minds. Now think what if they are able to alter our perceptions of themselves. Something familiar but still distinctively different. Then play good cop & bad cop while having the prisoner contai...
by novius
Mon May 27, 2019 8:48 am
Forum: Outsider Discussion
Topic: Page 156: Dun... dun... DUUUUUUN
Replies: 74
Views: 35893

Re: Page 156: Dun... dun... DUUUUUUN

Yeaaa...there's definitely something fishy here and it's too early to tell which of the two is lying. I think that it's just as likely that the Historian is manipulating Alex, just as its race had and probably is still manipulating both sides of the war for their own motive/benefits. And this is on...
by novius
Mon May 27, 2019 7:39 am
Forum: Outsider Discussion
Topic: Page 156: Dun... dun... DUUUUUUN
Replies: 74
Views: 35893

Re: Page 156: Dun... dun... DUUUUUUN

If Alex is keeping a tally, he would see that more and more reasons stack up against the Loroi. Starting out with the major assault underway, and the internal strife the Union seems to display. Once he comes to the decision that the Loroi Union might NOT be the best bet for humanity at a whole, the ...
by novius
Mon May 27, 2019 7:28 am
Forum: Outsider Discussion
Topic: Page 156: Dun... dun... DUUUUUUN
Replies: 74
Views: 35893

Re: Page 156: Dun... dun... DUUUUUUN

And, it's noteworthy that the construct instructed Alex to not to ask any questions not pertaining to his immediate survival. So the game of withholding information is not just played by Tempo alone. Seems that about everyone fears someone else telling Alex what he should not hear. For example, Bery...
by novius
Mon May 27, 2019 7:05 am
Forum: Outsider Discussion
Topic: Page 156: Dun... dun... DUUUUUUN
Replies: 74
Views: 35893

Re: Page 156: Dun... dun... DUUUUUUN

Tempo did tell Alex that every [member species] of the Union would rather use him and the political implications of his presence for their own benefit. The Historians were always been rather reluctant allies to the Union, ever since the Umiak started to encroach into Historian space, and they still ...
by novius
Mon May 27, 2019 6:39 am
Forum: Outsider Discussion
Topic: Page 156: Dun... dun... DUUUUUUN
Replies: 74
Views: 35893

Re: Page 156: Dun... dun... DUUUUUUN

The mail wasn't even addressed to Alex by name, but by the given moniker. Though I'm pretty sure that both Tempo and Beryl would piece it together, since he explained the meaning of his name on Tempest 's bridge. In retrospect, if Beryl sees a message addressed "To Alex" or "To Ensign Jardin", she m...
by novius
Mon May 27, 2019 6:05 am
Forum: Outsider Discussion
Topic: Page 156: Dun... dun... DUUUUUUN
Replies: 74
Views: 35893

Re: Page 156: Dun... dun... DUUUUUUN

"Everyone is lying for his own benefit. Including you." Words to live by. And a good measure whether Alex should trust the construct's words and motivations as well. Or rather not. Alex is already aware that Tempo seems to withhold information from him, and that there's definitely more to the whole ...
by novius
Fri May 24, 2019 6:43 am
Forum: Outsider Discussion
Topic: Page 155: But hang on...
Replies: 31
Views: 18893

Re: Page 155: But hang on...

The "Pocket Historian" did say that "this construct has been uploaded to give you this message" - so it means that it is sort of a cut down version, much like a glorified postman and maybe just able to do some rote-response dialogue. So the original construct indeed can make copies of itself, and ta...
by novius
Tue May 21, 2019 5:57 am
Forum: Outsider Discussion
Topic: Page 155: But hang on...
Replies: 31
Views: 18893

Re: Page 155: But hang on...

The construct just said that humanity's computers are more advanced than the rest of their technological base suggests. In absolute terms it would still mean that by current Loroi (and Historian standards) the computers are still very much behind the curve, but only a bit less so than, say, propulsi...
by novius
Mon May 20, 2019 7:45 am
Forum: Outsider Discussion
Topic: Page 155: But hang on...
Replies: 31
Views: 18893

Re: Page 155: But hang on...

And again, all that hassle for a "stay put, help is on its way" message? If it had been only that, the construct could easily have used its own projector can, and the Loroi would only ask themselves how it got onboard... if they'd even do that. And given that it chooses to reveal its presence to Ale...
by novius
Mon May 20, 2019 7:25 am
Forum: Outsider Discussion
Topic: Page 155: But hang on...
Replies: 31
Views: 18893

Re: Page 155: But hang on...

Me thinks the Historians are far more dangerous than we all think. Me thinks the Bellarmine was infected in the Sol system, likely shortly after the Orgus arrived in Humanities Sphere of Influence. Hang on, let's try to follow this thought a little bit further. Assuming that both the Orgus' and the...