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by Rosen_Ritter_1
Tue May 10, 2011 9:10 pm
Forum: Outsider Discussion
Topic: Page 86
Replies: 111
Views: 56309

Re: Page 86

this thing some of you guys have with the bugs caring about loroi meeting humans or even knowing about humans makes no sense to me at all. nothing in the story has even hinted at this possibility or even a reason why. sure we know humans are invisible to loroi far seers but there should be no way f...
by Rosen_Ritter_1
Tue May 10, 2011 6:52 pm
Forum: Outsider Discussion
Topic: Armor values
Replies: 67
Views: 37967

Re: Armor values

Fuel : The task force has been operational in the Naam system for some time, has already engaged the Umiak once, is currently engaging them again, and will have enough spare to leave the system. Whatever the Loroi fuel reserves are, they must be enough to implement hit and run tactics effectively o...
by Rosen_Ritter_1
Tue May 10, 2011 11:47 am
Forum: Outsider Discussion
Topic: Page 85
Replies: 254
Views: 126336

Re: Page 85

Lets take the assumption that they cant make faster railguns. Why use them at all. Why not just missiles.. and DO think very hard before you answer that. I'd probably assume on account that humanity has zero practical experiance in space combat. So it's understandable why some of their weapon choic...
by Rosen_Ritter_1
Tue May 10, 2011 11:42 am
Forum: Outsider Discussion
Topic: Armor values
Replies: 67
Views: 37967

Re: Armor values

You shouldn't really put any values under too much scrutiny. Blaster (beam cannons) should have just as big range/damage problems as lasers, but the description mentions the Loroi found a way around it. If he chose to, he could have just as easily written that humans found ways to get rid of all fr...
by Rosen_Ritter_1
Tue May 10, 2011 11:29 am
Forum: Outsider Discussion
Topic: Page 86
Replies: 111
Views: 56309

Re: Page 86

This Umiak assault fleet has TEN super heavies. It sounds like the 51st are WAY out of their weight range at this moment (Is it normal for regular Umiak assault forces to have this many heavy assets?). I guess since they were dealing with aliens, the Umiak REALLY wanted to make sure that the Loroi w...
by Rosen_Ritter_1
Tue May 10, 2011 1:00 am
Forum: Outsider Discussion
Topic: Armor values
Replies: 67
Views: 37967

Re: Armor values

95-98.5%(besides missiles) of the damage output of Terran ships comes from Mass Drivers. Railguns are Terran ships Primary Weapon 95-98.5% of the theoretical damage output of a Terran ship comes from it's Mass Drivers. In practice I severely doubt there'd be many conditions where a Terran ship coul...
by Rosen_Ritter_1
Mon May 09, 2011 11:33 pm
Forum: Outsider Discussion
Topic: Armor values
Replies: 67
Views: 37967

Re: Armor values

Umm (digression)? I thought Umiak went weeks without sleeping, would they even be capable of napping? :) Ok, that was a lie. They're really watching episodes of My Little Pony Friendship is magic. The philosophy of friendship being magical greatly suits their collectivist friendship valuing mentali...
by Rosen_Ritter_1
Mon May 09, 2011 9:56 pm
Forum: Outsider Discussion
Topic: Armor values
Replies: 67
Views: 37967

Re: Armor values

Rosen_Ritter_1 I didnt post what you are responding too... Whoops. My bad. I couldnt be bothered after your claim about weapons.. despite the fact Terran ship specs show the cruisers carry mostly railguns.. while the Heavy cruiser carries 2 more heavy lasers then heavy railguns, but the railguns sh...
by Rosen_Ritter_1
Mon May 09, 2011 9:24 pm
Forum: Outsider Discussion
Topic: Armor values
Replies: 67
Views: 37967

Re: Armor values

Except the Loroi strategy IS already to stay out of range for as long as possible and *go to town*. That's what they've been doing throughout the majority of the war. I'm not sure this is as big of a deal as you're making it out to be. Because frankly, the ability to accelerate away from the Umiak a...
by Rosen_Ritter_1
Mon May 09, 2011 5:10 pm
Forum: Outsider Discussion
Topic: Armor values
Replies: 67
Views: 37967

Re: Armor values

Maybe that points out psychological issues with the Umiak/Loroi. Putting guns that can shoot backwards and flying away from your enemy while you whack them hasnt even been considered. Probably because the Loroi boosting at their max 30G acceleration would rapidly burn up fuel. Umiak ships might not...
by Rosen_Ritter_1
Mon May 09, 2011 3:59 pm
Forum: Outsider Discussion
Topic: Armor values
Replies: 67
Views: 37967

Re: Armor values

But then why wouldn't the Loroi also beef up their armor, or concentrate it on the front of their ships? They prefer mobility to armor, yes, but even their ships don't have true multi-directional turrets (with the exception of the Rapier), which means that they more or less have to joust as well (o...
by Rosen_Ritter_1
Mon May 09, 2011 2:54 pm
Forum: Outsider Discussion
Topic: Armor values
Replies: 67
Views: 37967

Re: Armor values

Yeah, I will say the discrepancy in armor-rating between the different races is a lot higher than I expected. The Umiak armor values are crazy high. It makes perfect sense for humanity, since we're working off less effective materials due to our lower tech base. And it's already been established th...
by Rosen_Ritter_1
Mon May 09, 2011 1:18 pm
Forum: Outsider Discussion
Topic: WIP Discussion (Part 1!)
Replies: 2709
Views: 1806499

Re: WIP Discussion (Part 1!)

I actually don't see why it'd be shocking at all for the crew to be a bit unnerved for Still Storm ordering them to continue holding the line against this larger Umiak wave. They managed to repel the previous wave, but took loses when the enemy closed in and expended all their special ammunition. Yo...
by Rosen_Ritter_1
Mon May 09, 2011 12:51 pm
Forum: Outsider Discussion
Topic: Armor values
Replies: 67
Views: 37967

Armor values

True to his word, Arioch just recently standardized all the armor values present on the Umiak/Loroi/Terran ship class pages. All the ships aren't updated yet, but it does give you a bit of a better understanding of the construction of the various races ships. Though I will say the America class crui...
by Rosen_Ritter_1
Sun May 08, 2011 4:25 pm
Forum: Outsider Discussion
Topic: Page 85
Replies: 254
Views: 126336

Re: Page 85

shouldn't this go in another thread?
by Rosen_Ritter_1
Wed May 04, 2011 10:02 pm
Forum: Outsider Discussion
Topic: Page 85
Replies: 254
Views: 126336

Re: Page 85

I'm not sure what the point of the arguement here is :shock: Increasing the rail guns energy on impact isn't that big of a deal, since they already pretty much oblitorate anything they manage to hit. And increasing velocity doesn't help that much against Loroi/Umiak opponents. The ranges they fight ...
by Rosen_Ritter_1
Wed May 04, 2011 11:48 am
Forum: Outsider Discussion
Topic: Page 85
Replies: 254
Views: 126336

Re: Page 85

Humans also resemble Loroi. That's a pretty difficult stumbling block in the way of exterminating an entire race, because it's fairly easy to demonise something that doesn't look at all like you. That, and the fact that allot of internal members of the Loroi Union would consider an unprovoked attac...
by Rosen_Ritter_1
Wed May 04, 2011 3:25 am
Forum: Outsider Discussion
Topic: Page 85
Replies: 254
Views: 126336

Re: Page 85

Then humans are screwed ;P Since Loroi are superior to humans in everything BUT Social structure and physical strength. They seem smarter They have telepathic and telekintic abilities They require far less food. They can live on larger extremes of hot or cold worlds 70% female breeding rapidly will...
by Rosen_Ritter_1
Wed May 04, 2011 1:24 am
Forum: Outsider Discussion
Topic: Page 85
Replies: 254
Views: 126336

Re: Page 85

It sounds like people are expecting humanity to be the hero of the story, rather than Alex. Then check your ears, no one is saying humanity is going to make a difference in the war effort in the story. It's been known for a while Arioch said such development is beyond the story in Outsider currentl...
by Rosen_Ritter_1
Wed May 04, 2011 12:30 am
Forum: Outsider Discussion
Topic: Page 85
Replies: 254
Views: 126336

Re: Page 85

CptWinters wrote:And what's so implausible about that?
Because this is what they're planning for each other right now.

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