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by anticarrot
Tue Jun 28, 2011 8:39 am
Forum: Outsider Discussion
Topic: Page 89
Replies: 89
Views: 52345

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SUG: My suggestion had the same problem. ;)
"Now witness the firepower of this fully armed and operational battlestation! You may fire when ready."
by anticarrot
Sun Jun 05, 2011 6:23 pm
Forum: Outsider Discussion
Topic: Page 88
Replies: 335
Views: 164369

Re: Page 88

Except Fireblades interrogation didn't work. They didn't get any information (or at least any useful information) out of Alex when they scanned him. So I'm guessing it's a bit more indepth than that. Maybe it's a sales recipt? On the basis of Like Reality Except, our fossil record is still there, a...
by anticarrot
Thu Jun 02, 2011 10:41 am
Forum: Outsider Discussion
Topic: Page 88
Replies: 335
Views: 164369

Re: Page 88

Nah dude. First of all, those things were armored enough that a victorian cannon is unlikely to do anything. Firstly, the claim was that even at point blank range, a victorian ship couldn't damage a WWII battleship which is not true. Secondly those areas were not armored! Fire control in those days...
by anticarrot
Wed Jun 01, 2011 6:19 pm
Forum: Outsider Discussion
Topic: Page 88
Replies: 335
Views: 164369

Re: Page 88

Minor issue: A victorian warship (or indeed a nepoleanic ship, if it could get its guns high enough) could easily 'soft kill' a WWII battleship by taking out the bridge and fire control stations, which would blind and thus silence the main guns. I would speculate that HMS Dreadnought (a very late er...
by anticarrot
Tue May 31, 2011 1:21 pm
Forum: Outsider Discussion
Topic: Page 88
Replies: 335
Views: 164369

Re: Page 88

I think a comparison question to humanity's contribution would be, "How easily could Victorian level industry help the current US Navy?" If that's accurate, then it's possible. Ship are still essentially made of wielded steel, and wielding is something the victorians would have no trouble picking up...
by anticarrot
Fri May 27, 2011 4:13 pm
Forum: Outsider Discussion
Topic: Page 88
Replies: 335
Views: 164369

Re: Page 88

Getting data out of our computers would be a huge undertaking. Oh for pity's sake... So they don't have ipads? Or mp3 players? Or gameboys? Or anything like them? Nothing like pocket calculators? Nothing like the computers that we've had for the past twenty years that are designed to be so easy to ...
by anticarrot
Thu May 26, 2011 10:33 pm
Forum: Outsider Discussion
Topic: Page 88
Replies: 335
Views: 164369

Re: Page 88

we're unlikely to see any black box data from the bell. True enough. But there will have been a *lot* of computers on the Bell. Given reasonable advances a lot of them probably survived. When the Loroi were over there on salvage they probably grabbed enough to cobble a working system together. Give...
by anticarrot
Thu May 26, 2011 4:33 pm
Forum: Outsider Discussion
Topic: Page 88
Replies: 335
Views: 164369

Re: Page 88

and if someone else has something that seems to be of value, they want it, whether they understand its value or not. And if the Storm Witch wants it... Imagine the following line in a WWII film. American soldier: "I don't know what it is, but if the Germans/Japs want it, let's blow it up/steal it!"...
by anticarrot
Wed May 25, 2011 2:58 pm
Forum: Outsider Discussion
Topic: Page 88
Replies: 335
Views: 164369

Re: Page 88

I highly doubt human sensors would be able to detect this jamming signal But they *did* get a very good look at the enemy ship . That information probably is recoverable. Hmm. I wonder what Barstrum ships look like? I assume humans aren't the only ones chomping at the bit to get better technology. ...
by anticarrot
Tue May 24, 2011 3:05 pm
Forum: Outsider Discussion
Topic: Page 88
Replies: 335
Views: 164369

Re: Page 88

Hmm. What if the Umiak are actually (in comparable terms) the 'good guys'? ;) If you think about it, they are more industrious, less concerned about honour, pragmatic, willing to accept surrender, individually pleasant, collectively xenophobic, and rather bad for the enviroment. Sounds like America ...
by anticarrot
Mon May 23, 2011 8:45 pm
Forum: Outsider Discussion
Topic: Page 87
Replies: 174
Views: 83793

Re: Page 87

1. Loroi have mastered the plasma focus. 2. The Loroi have an unknown ship or ships waiting by the sidelines to some unknown purpose, armed with next-generation weapons. 3. The Loroi may have anticipated your manner of attack and have possibly been playing you, since they have an unknown ship of un...
by anticarrot
Mon May 23, 2011 7:57 am
Forum: Outsider Discussion
Topic: Page 87
Replies: 174
Views: 83793

Re: Page 87

No one's arguing against that. What we ARE arguning against is the idea that [upgrading earth's tech base] is going to be a simple, fast process. If the Loroi or Umiak drop a derelict ship into our laps it's not going to be a matter of a 5 minute montage of engineers arguing around a chalkboard bef...
by anticarrot
Thu May 19, 2011 4:10 pm
Forum: Outsider Discussion
Topic: Page 87
Replies: 174
Views: 83793

Re: Page 87

It wasn't weakness that made the Soviets not want to open another front, it was an absence of stupidity. Actually a bit of both. The soviet union lost 30,000,000 people during WWII. And they lied about for five decades, claiming a mere 20M instead. There's good historical evidence that they were ve...
by anticarrot
Wed May 18, 2011 6:15 pm
Forum: Outsider Discussion
Topic: Page 87
Replies: 174
Views: 83793

Re: Page 87

If it isn't needed, and would cost a lot, it's put aside for later. The reason that NATO torpedoes top out a 60 knots while the supercav torpedoes top out at 200 is pretty simple, NATO doesn't have a need for carrier-killer, semi-guided, short-range, nuclear torpedoes. That is exactly what I just s...
by anticarrot
Wed May 18, 2011 5:42 pm
Forum: Outsider Discussion
Topic: Page 87
Replies: 174
Views: 83793

Re: Page 87

There's a difference between building something within your tech level that you previously had no need for, and building something outside of your tech level. This is true, but as I just said , most people don't actually know what their current or historic tech level is/was capable of.There's also ...
by anticarrot
Wed May 18, 2011 5:01 pm
Forum: Outsider Discussion
Topic: Page 87
Replies: 174
Views: 83793

Re: Page 87

If the terran military is anything like our military, they'll probably have plans for 15g, 20g, and 25g torpedeos (at various states of readiness) gathering dust in the archives. For the same reason most NATO torpedeos today manage 40-60kt - instead of the 200kt the russian supercav torpedeos can ma...
by anticarrot
Wed May 11, 2011 10:21 am
Forum: Outsider Discussion
Topic: Page 86
Replies: 111
Views: 56390

Re: Page 86

Unless the Umiak have prior contact with humans - all they know is that Alex's vessel got jumped. This tells them nothing meaningful about humanity's technology or society. For all they know humans control thousands of systems, the Bellermine was super advanced, and their attacker just got very luck...
by anticarrot
Sat Apr 23, 2011 12:00 am
Forum: Outsider Discussion
Topic: Page 84
Replies: 91
Views: 60178

Re: Page 84

Was the ship built so that the crew could survive such failures? As much as is practical, but crew safety is a secondary concern to combat effectiveness. Actually in a modern military it isn't. Combat effectiveness is often directly proportional to training and combat experience. if you considder c...
by anticarrot
Thu Apr 21, 2011 9:43 am
Forum: Outsider Discussion
Topic: Page 84
Replies: 91
Views: 60178

Re: Page 84

edit: I see I was a bit late...and we have Word of God on the fate of Winter Tide and her crew. Out of interest, would it be fair to say that Winter Tide was built with the possibility of surviving such a critical failure? *The engine is in an armored pod outside the main hull. That come with a sig...
by anticarrot
Sun Apr 10, 2011 12:38 am
Forum: Outsider Discussion
Topic: page 82
Replies: 71
Views: 64343

Re: page 82

The difference between gravity and electro-magnetics wouldn't be as much as you are implying. I'm afraid I have to conclude you do not understand the laws of physics or the principles of engineering nearly as well as you think you do. Especially when you start to say that gravity 'pulls apart on pr...