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See at naught to be afeared about said Spiral with her eyes closed. 8-)

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Has anyone really been far even as decided to use even go want to do look more like?


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I can also see Temp's question, and by extension that of Beryl, is probing Alex to see how he does under pressure. A potential allied race in a war this bloody would need to be able t handle themselves in bad times. Abandoned, alone, and in the heart of an enemy assault of tremendous size, this would be a test of mettle for anyone.

If nothing else, how he handles this may get him some browny points with the space elves


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Salient point, how Spiral is saying that with her eyes closed is like she is saying a mantra to keep HERSELF calm.


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Has anyone really been far even as decided to use even go want to do look more like?

I do not understand this sentence. Parsing error...

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Krulle wrote:
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Has anyone really been far even as decided to use even go want to do look more like?

I do not understand this sentence. Parsing error...

I'm guessing that either this is a Spiral impersonation, or he had a stroke.

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happens when you try to formulate your thoughts...
And when usually doing Sanzai, using words is hard.
I also presume that the Loroi-native "language" (not "Trade") has a totally different semantic, and it would therefore be hard to formulate your thoughts in our web-trade-language.
This is hard for most Humans already.


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Arioch wrote:
Krulle wrote:
boldilocks wrote:
Has anyone really been far even as decided to use even go want to do look more like?

I do not understand this sentence. Parsing error...

I'm guessing that either this is a Spiral impersonation, or he had a stroke.

It's an older meme, but it checks out.
I looked at the time stamp and now I'm feeling old. I remember when this was new...

ANYWAY, don't know if I mistrust the historians less than the Loroi at this point, so while I want to chastise Alexander, I do not really have a solid basis for doing so.


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Man, if Arioch had put out these pages 1 month later it would have been a 10-year memeversary.


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Never heard of that meme. Thanks for pointing it out.
Because usually memes make a sense somehow, but this sentence?
It became a meme because it's non-parseable, even in the context of the image you provided.


So, let me reply with a different meme:
boldilocks wrote:
Has anyone really been far even as decided to use even go want to do look more like?
We did. You did. Yes we can. No.



(Original context of my reply)
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PC game "Star-Control 2", and in the OpenSource-variant: The Ur-Quan Masters:
The Kohr-Ah in reply to your statement:
"You have attacked us before, and we survived! You cannot defeat us. Submit!"


BTW: for fun I tried to see what the video reference in the meme is about, but https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=AQTmcD9vVYc just return "Video unavailable This video is private". So, a Wii game....
Makes about as much sense as my reply to the meme.

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I can also see Temp's question, and by extension that of Beryl, is probing Alex to see how he does under pressure. A potential allied race in a war this bloody would need to be able t handle themselves in bad times. Abandoned, alone, and in the heart of an enemy assault of tremendous size, this would be a test of mettle for anyone.

If nothing else, how he handles this may get him some browny points with the space elves


Notwithstanding the fact that she could still be a top-notch playactor - after all, people successful in the spook business would have to be - it could be that there is no 'master plan' behind her recent actions, only that she sees the current situation, and the VIP she is responsible for in immediate danger, as a personal failure and thus feeling quite a load of shame and regret.

That would fit with her behavior in the recent pages where she's hestitant to approach Alex directly, only after seeing that he remains in good spirits around the others. Even her short exchange with Beryl could have been a question like "How is he?" .

About the construct's warning? Maybe the Loroi do have some nefarious agenda concerning the humans. Maybe the historians have some nefarious agenda concerning the humans and it would serve them to drive a wedge between humans and Loroi. But answering that question may help to decide whether Tempo's sorrows are genuine or just an act to get back in Alex's good graces, especially after Talon, Spiral and even Cloud sort of pulling ahead of her in that regard.

Though... Now I'm wondering a bit about Fireblade and her joining the fun. On the other hand, Fireblade and fun may not really mix, I think, unless it involves bending things and people into interesting shapes with just a glance.


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after all, people successful in the spook business would have to be

I think people tend to overestimate how spooks work in real life. They're not really particularly clever, and they don't have to be, because their targets aren't particularly clever either. A good example is Epstein. All you need for a honey-pot operation to work is some honey, and the dumber bears will flock to you.
For spooks, humans want to trust each-other.
And the moment you've become slightly invested in the relationship the spook builds with you, you'll start defending the relationship because if it turns out to be fake, that he was taking you for a ride, that reflects badly on your own ego.


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after all, people successful in the spook business would have to be

I think people tend to overestimate how spooks work in real life. They're not really particularly clever, and they don't have to be, because their targets aren't particularly clever either. A good example is Epstein. All you need for a honey-pot operation to work is some honey, and the dumber bears will flock to you.
For spooks, humans want to trust each-other.
And the moment you've become slightly invested in the relationship the spook builds with you, you'll start defending the relationship because if it turns out to be fake, that he was taking you for a ride, that reflects badly on your own ego.

"Spook" is slang for a spy, not a swindler or a serial child molester.

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Arioch wrote:
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after all, people successful in the spook business would have to be

I think people tend to overestimate how spooks work in real life. They're not really particularly clever, and they don't have to be, because their targets aren't particularly clever either. A good example is Epstein. All you need for a honey-pot operation to work is some honey, and the dumber bears will flock to you.
For spooks, humans want to trust each-other.
And the moment you've become slightly invested in the relationship the spook builds with you, you'll start defending the relationship because if it turns out to be fake, that he was taking you for a ride, that reflects badly on your own ego.

"Spook" is slang for a spy, not a swindler or a serial child molester.



Yeah, those are more examples of confidence man (or con man for short), and the later when it comes to honey pot type things, whatever you call someone that gets blackmail material regardless of the legality of the girls in question.


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Arioch wrote:
boldilocks wrote:
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after all, people successful in the spook business would have to be

I think people tend to overestimate how spooks work in real life. They're not really particularly clever, and they don't have to be, because their targets aren't particularly clever either. A good example is Epstein. All you need for a honey-pot operation to work is some honey, and the dumber bears will flock to you.
For spooks, humans want to trust each-other.
And the moment you've become slightly invested in the relationship the spook builds with you, you'll start defending the relationship because if it turns out to be fake, that he was taking you for a ride, that reflects badly on your own ego.

"Spook" is slang for a spy, not a swindler or a serial child molester.

Right, but Epstein targeted the same kind of people that spies target, people well connected in terms of wealth or power, using the same methods (not just limited to child molestation though that's a surefire way to get someone under your thumb). And he was arguably an intelligence asset rather than an operative (his handler most likely being Ghislaine Maxwell.)


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How did we get from Outsider to the very cusp of an 'Epstein didn't kill himself' meme?


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How did we get from Outsider to the very cusp of an 'Epstein didn't kill himself' meme?


Welcome to the internets! :lol: :P

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Moving on from the child sex ringleader,

Could spiral's comment at the end show a hidden depth to the character. Like has been said before, she sees more hyperactive puppy or flyboy jock on par with the Tom Cruise's character at the beginning of Top Gun. However this might mean beneath the thirteen year old boy trapped in a hot girl's body mentality she outwardly shows there might be more beneath the surface?

My headcanon says something like on the lines of Deadpool or Spiderman. WHen they are talking and joking at breakneck speeds they are holding back and hiding their own fears. The moment either one shuts up is the moment to be wetting yourself and running the opposite direction as they are no longer playing around.


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I disagree. Fear is healthy. It teaches caution and respect of the unknown or that which we have no control over. It informs us when we must favor security and survival over taking unnecessary risk and reckless abandon. Foolhardiness also profits a man nothing where wise tact would have served him better. Rather, I would suggest that it is "Irrational fear that profits a man nothing".

I'd argue that there is an element of fear which is inherently irrational. Fear is an emotion.


I think he will show the womenfolk how it's done


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CrimsonFALKE wrote:
Arioch wrote:
Dirty Yasuki wrote:
I disagree. Fear is healthy. It teaches caution and respect of the unknown or that which we have no control over. It informs us when we must favor security and survival over taking unnecessary risk and reckless abandon. Foolhardiness also profits a man nothing where wise tact would have served him better. Rather, I would suggest that it is "Irrational fear that profits a man nothing".

I'd argue that there is an element of fear which is inherently irrational. Fear is an emotion.


I think he will show the womenfolk how it's done

When you need a feeling felt right, you need a man.


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When you need a feeling felt right, you need a man.


Well, I believe the contemporary method is to:
  1. Begin to feel afraid
  2. Ignore the feeling for as long as possible
  3. Notice you’re agitated
  4. Misinterpret this as irritation
  5. Become angry
  6. Take our your feelings on those around you

Those Loroi are in for a treat.

EDIT: also, if he does the “I’m fine” thing while clearly agitated, the combo of a culture of not telling people about how you’re feeling plus a lotai might go down very badly with some loroi.

The hell of it is, that the honest answer (eg “I’m tired and hungry and stressed and I want to go home”) might work well on Beryl, maybe not so well on Tempo, who knows on Firebird and badly back home on Earth when the Admiralty finds out.

I will be interested - should the story take us there - to observe behaviour in the Emperor’s court. Will the notorious loroi honesty hold up, or will it be a den of duplicitous opportunists and backstabbers?


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Moving on from the child sex ringleader,

Could spiral's comment at the end show a hidden depth to the character. Like has been said before, she sees more hyperactive puppy or flyboy jock on par with the Tom Cruise's character at the beginning of Top Gun. However this might mean beneath the thirteen year old boy trapped in a hot girl's body mentality she outwardly shows there might be more beneath the surface?

My headcanon says something like on the lines of Deadpool or Spiderman. WHen they are talking and joking at breakneck speeds they are holding back and hiding their own fears. The moment either one shuts up is the moment to be wetting yourself and running the opposite direction as they are no longer playing around.

The Loroi have been born into the warrior caste and brought up inherently accepting that death is often part of their job. To me Spiral seems more like she is repeating a religious phrase, closed eyes and all. Some of that Loroi philosophy mentioned in the Insider, I believe. Just imagine a Spartan or Samurai reciting Spirals proverb. Her sentiment is quite common for a martial society.


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Samurai Proverb - "Death is as light as a feather, HONOR.. is heavier than all the mountains of the world."

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So sarcasm is par from the course.

When Alexander the Great's father told Spartans that if h attacked them they would not survive, they replied "If" and erte never attacked.

One story had a Spartan draw a life sized fly on his shield. When his fellow SPartans gave him crap for it until he said he just wants to be to be up close to the enemy so they get a good look at it (i.e. bash their face in with the massive shield).

Knights would also do something simalar. Morning Stars were often called "Holy Water Sprinklers."


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