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Re: Miscellaneous Umiak/misc. races question-and-answer thre

Posted: Tue Apr 23, 2019 9:14 am
by Krulle
Arioch wrote:
SVlad wrote:Any chance we will see Kikitik-27 in the future? His style of speech is amazing.
Well, he made a point of saying his name, and other characters have talked about him several times now.

Odds that he has no further part in the story: 0.0%
Interesting answer.
You answered he will play a role in the story, but you have NOT answered whether we'll see him.

But, this is a graphical novel.
Of course that increases our chances to see him/it.

[edit]added quote, as this post appeared on a new page, easier to discuss that way[/edit]

Re: Miscellaneous Umiak/misc. races question-and-answer thre

Posted: Mon May 06, 2019 8:12 pm
by dragoongfa
Quick question about the Historian holographic apparatus (which looks like a trash can that was born out of a flowerpot), in page 52 it looks like the handles at the side morphed into legs for the whole thing to stand on. On page 65 the legs have now shifted into handles. How does it do that?

Is it a form of 'smart' material able to take several pre-programmed shapes or is it more fluid and versatile in nature able to become any shape the A.I. wants?

Re: Miscellaneous Umiak/misc. races question-and-answer thre

Posted: Mon May 06, 2019 8:25 pm
by boldilocks
dragoongfa wrote:Quick question about the Historian holographic apparatus (which looks like a trash can that was born out of a flowerpot), in page 52 it looks like the handles at the side morphed into legs for the whole thing to stand on. On page 65 the legs have now shifted into handles. How does it do that?

Is it a form of 'smart' material able to take several pre-programmed shapes or is it more fluid and versatile in nature able to become any shape the A.I. wants?
Is it necessarily the same one? It sort of makes sense from a story telling perspective that it would be, but the AI apparently moves from bucket to bucket?

Re: Miscellaneous Umiak/misc. races question-and-answer thre

Posted: Mon May 06, 2019 9:12 pm
by Arioch
dragoongfa wrote:Quick question about the Historian holographic apparatus (which looks like a trash can that was born out of a flowerpot), in page 52 it looks like the handles at the side morphed into legs for the whole thing to stand on. On page 65 the legs have now shifted into handles. How does it do that?

Is it a form of 'smart' material able to take several pre-programmed shapes or is it more fluid and versatile in nature able to become any shape the A.I. wants?
The "limbs" of the jar can change shape to a certain extent. I expect that it has some limitations as to shape and the speed and force with which it can change shape, but within that envelope it is controllable. But I don't see it as being a T1000-like fluid metal.

Re: Miscellaneous Umiak/misc. races question-and-answer thre

Posted: Mon May 06, 2019 10:49 pm
by GeoModder
Ah yes, on the last panel of page 65 we can already see Cloud has changed the shape of the bin's supports.

Re: Miscellaneous Umiak/misc. races question-and-answer thre

Posted: Wed May 08, 2019 3:15 pm
by Werra
Insider wrote:[Golim] are one of the few alien races that are permitted to serve aboard Loroi warships.
What are the other races that serve aboard Loroi warships and how common is that?

Are there non Loroi serving with SG51?

Re: Miscellaneous Umiak/misc. races question-and-answer thre

Posted: Wed May 08, 2019 3:56 pm
by Arioch
Werra wrote:
Insider wrote:[Golim] are one of the few alien races that are permitted to serve aboard Loroi warships.
What are the other races that serve aboard Loroi warships and how common is that?
The Loroi military structure recognizes a number of foreign military attaché titles that allow aliens to serve aboard Loroi warships, mostly in an advisory capacity. They can be of any species. They are not very common and are most often used as a local liaison when a fleet is operating in another race's territory.
Werra wrote:Are there non Loroi serving with SG51?
Yes, most of the ships have Golim crewmembers. They are technically civilian contractors.

And yes, this means Tempest has Golim aboard. Alex was originally supposed to walk past one on his first walk to the bridge, but the visual design wasn't ready. It's probably just as well, as I think it would have been an unhelpful distraction, narrative-wise.

Re: Miscellaneous Umiak/misc. races question-and-answer thre

Posted: Wed May 08, 2019 6:08 pm
by boldilocks
Arioch wrote:
Werra wrote:
Insider wrote:[Golim] are one of the few alien races that are permitted to serve aboard Loroi warships.
What are the other races that serve aboard Loroi warships and how common is that?
The Loroi military structure recognizes a number of foreign military attaché titles that allow aliens to serve aboard Loroi warships, mostly in an advisory capacity. They can be of any species. They are not very common and are most often used as a local liaison when a fleet is operating in another race's territory.
Werra wrote:Are there non Loroi serving with SG51?
Yes, most of the ships have Golim crewmembers. They are technically civilian contractors.

And yes, this means Tempest has Golim aboard. Alex was originally supposed to walk past one on his first walk to the bridge, but the visual design wasn't ready. It's probably just as well, as I think it would have been an unhelpful distraction, narrative-wise.
Maybe a good idea for the loroi not to overwhelm him with sensory input, either, as they don't necessarily know how much information he can handle at once, with what's going to happen at the end of his walk. (And what he's recently been through)

Re: Miscellaneous Umiak/misc. races question-and-answer thre

Posted: Wed May 08, 2019 6:22 pm
by Werra
Maybe for the best that he didn't see a mind slave shortly after the Loroi tried their probing.

Re: Miscellaneous Umiak/misc. races question-and-answer thre

Posted: Wed May 08, 2019 9:25 pm
by GeoModder
So its not the Gallen or Soroin that are supposed to be on latrine or canteen duty after all. :P

Re: Miscellaneous Umiak/misc. races question-and-answer thre

Posted: Thu May 09, 2019 5:32 am
by entity2636
Arioch wrote:Yes, most of the ships have Golim crewmembers. They are technically civilian contractors.

And yes, this means Tempest has Golim aboard.
Interesting. I would have expected Neridi to serve aboard Loroi warships, since they already serve on the stations and as couriers.

Re: Miscellaneous Umiak/misc. races question-and-answer thre

Posted: Thu May 09, 2019 6:30 am
by Arioch
entity2636 wrote:
Arioch wrote:Yes, most of the ships have Golim crewmembers. They are technically civilian contractors.

And yes, this means Tempest has Golim aboard.
Interesting. I would have expected Neridi to serve aboard Loroi warships, since they already serve on the stations and as couriers.
The Loroi don't like having alien civilians aboard their warships. They make an exception for the Golim because of their unique capabilities. The natural Golim ability to work in high temperature, high pressure, corrosive environments makes them very useful for certain kinds of engineering work. They're not there to clean toilets or make sandwiches.

There are Neridi aboard some of the stations at Leido Crossroads because it's technically their territory and under their administration.

Re: Miscellaneous Umiak/misc. races question-and-answer thre

Posted: Thu May 09, 2019 7:02 am
by GeoModder
But how effective are the Golim in performing these tasks if they're so easily distracted by the presence of nearby Loroi?
Also, may we assume their own technological base makes great strides forward due to the firsthand experience former attached workers bring back home after a 'tour of duty' in the Loroi military?

Re: Miscellaneous Umiak/misc. races question-and-answer thre

Posted: Thu May 09, 2019 4:47 pm
by Arioch
GeoModder wrote:But how effective are the Golim in performing these tasks if they're so easily distracted by the presence of nearby Loroi?
If the nearby Loroi are involved in the same work, it's not a distraction. It only becomes a problem if there are two nearby Loroi who want the Golim to do different things.
GeoModder wrote:Also, may we assume their own technological base makes great strides forward due to the firsthand experience former attached workers bring back home after a 'tour of duty' in the Loroi military?
The Golim have a sort of bifurcated culture. Those Golim who live and work amongst the Loroi and other aliens are at the same technological level as the rest of the Union, exercise full Union membership, and are in nominal administrative control of a number of worlds in the anti-spinward portion of the Seren sector, unofficially known as "Golim territory" (though, in practice, these are of course under Loroi control). Those Golim who live in the preserve on the Golim homeworld practice a more traditional (technologically backward) lifestyle, and are mostly isolated from Union affairs. The expatriate Golim seldom want to return to the preserve to bring their expertise to the traditionalists, and when they do, their teachings are usually not welcome. The flow of migration from the Golim-chei preserve tends to be one way: out.

Re: Miscellaneous Umiak/misc. races question-and-answer thre

Posted: Thu May 09, 2019 9:08 pm
by GeoModder
Arioch wrote:
GeoModder wrote:Also, may we assume their own technological base makes great strides forward due to the firsthand experience former attached workers bring back home after a 'tour of duty' in the Loroi military?
The Golim have a sort of bifurcated culture. Those Golim who live and work amongst the Loroi and other aliens are at the same technological level as the rest of the Union, exercise full Union membership, and are in nominal administrative control of a number of worlds in the anti-spinward portion of the Seren sector, unofficially known as "Golim territory" (though, in practice, these are of course under Loroi control). Those Golim who live in the preserve on the Golim homeworld practice a more traditional (technologically backward) lifestyle, and are mostly isolated from Union affairs. The expatriate Golim seldom want to return to the preserve to bring their expertise to the traditionalists, and when they do, their teachings are usually not welcome. The flow of migration from the Golim-chei preserve tends to be one way: out.
Ah, that's a nice tidbit to know. The section on the Golim in the "Races of the Loroi Union" page doesn't make this clear. Thanks!

Re: Miscellaneous Umiak/misc. races question-and-answer thre

Posted: Fri Jun 07, 2019 4:37 pm
by SVlad
By the way, what is the correct spelling of "Orgus"? Directly by trade spelling rules?

Re: Miscellaneous Umiak/misc. races question-and-answer thre

Posted: Fri Jun 07, 2019 5:10 pm
by Arioch
SVlad wrote:By the way, what is the correct spelling of "Orgus"? Directly by trade spelling rules?
Depends on which dialect of Trade. In the Barsam and Periphery dialects, it's just "Orgus". In the Loroi dialect, it's "Orgos".

The normal conversion of sounds in the Loroi dialect is:
j => z
v => b
u => o
k => g
tch/ch => sh

Re: Miscellaneous Umiak/misc. races question-and-answer thre

Posted: Fri Jun 07, 2019 5:30 pm
by SVlad
I meant that when humanity met Orgus, they don't know about different dialects. So how did Orgus spelled it themselfs?

Re: Miscellaneous Umiak/misc. races question-and-answer thre

Posted: Fri Jun 07, 2019 5:33 pm
by Arioch
SVlad wrote:I meant that when humanity met Orgus, they don't know about different dialects. So how did Orgus spelled it themselfs?
The Orgus use the Periphery dialect, which has a different script than Loroi Trade. It's spelled "orgus" in the Periphery dialect.

Re: Miscellaneous Umiak/misc. races question-and-answer thre

Posted: Fri Jun 07, 2019 5:41 pm
by SVlad
Thanks