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Arent
Joined: Sat Jan 24, 2015 1:42 pm Posts: 130
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Looks like a master of orion starbase or battlestation. If the small lights are windows, it is pretty big.
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boldilocks
Joined: Fri Jun 02, 2017 8:27 am Posts: 435
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Could be that they're going to mention the station as a possible place to go now that Clearbrook is bugging out.
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Sun May 20, 2018 9:50 am |
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icekatze
Joined: Sat Mar 05, 2011 1:35 pm Posts: 1289 Location: Middle of Nowhere
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hi hi I think the probability that the Highland 7 is going to divert to the Gora Relay has just gone up significantly. While the station does not look like a complete pushover, sporting as many point defense turrets as it appears to be, and what look like possibly some big shield emitters, I have doubts that it can handle two plus divisions by itself. If Highland 7 is going there, I imagine they'll want to refuel and get moving as soon as they can. And also, they may have to make some tough calls about who to leave behind themselves, just like the Clearbrook. Looks like at least 16 point defense turrets by my count, and possibly some blasters too. I wonder, do stations get automatic upgrades like in Moo2, or are they possibly not a very high priority for the Loroi to upgrade with their latest and greatest tech?
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orion1836
Joined: Mon Feb 06, 2017 4:38 pm Posts: 307
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The icon on page 123's tactical display seems to match the design of the station. The Leido-Sala Post seems to be either the same, or of a similar design, while the Tizaba Depot and the station on the Azimol vector look different. Interesting that the Rallis vector is unmanned (unloroied?). Maybe they didn't think it busy/important enough to warrant a station? I'm hoping that they gas up and try to make a max effort sprint to link up with Black Razor.
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Sun May 20, 2018 10:33 am |
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icekatze
Joined: Sat Mar 05, 2011 1:35 pm Posts: 1289 Location: Middle of Nowhere
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hi hi Back on page 53, there's some of the early base station concept art. It looks like the Tizaba Depot is a tier or two above the Gora Relay, but also maybe a tier above the most basic station design. According to Beryl, the jump point to Rallis leads to nowhere.
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Sun May 20, 2018 11:38 am |
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Arent
Joined: Sat Jan 24, 2015 1:42 pm Posts: 130
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According to the picture it's a battlestation. So it packs a bit of a punch. If supported by other ships the fight might not be as unequal as it seems.
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Sun May 20, 2018 12:34 pm |
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Sweforce
Joined: Thu Mar 12, 2015 5:00 pm Posts: 457
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page 92, where chapter two starts we see a part of a humanity made space station orbiting Mars. If that Loroi station are about the size I suspect it is tiny in comparison. I believe that humanity can build large, if not that advanced. It is also possible that we got ships larger then any loroi vessel described in the insider. We just do not know how large civilian craft can be, maybe some of them dwarfs the military ones. In our time Supertankers dwarfs most things for instance.
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icekatze
Joined: Sat Mar 05, 2011 1:35 pm Posts: 1289 Location: Middle of Nowhere
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hi hi
To be fair, the space dock seen orbiting Earth was built around humanity's capitol and by far its largest population center. The Loroi battlestation is in a system with no habitable planets.
If I were to hazard a wild guess about the battlestation's armament and fighting capacity, I'd guess it is somewhere between a heavy battleship and a group command ship. Maybe the heavier screens and armor help make up for the lack of speed.
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CF2
Joined: Tue Apr 04, 2017 10:02 am Posts: 172 Location: On your PC as a background program.
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I wonder how much mobility these stations have, since if they're taking hits then their orbit will be affected and need correction.
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Sweforce
Joined: Thu Mar 12, 2015 5:00 pm Posts: 457
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Of course. the loroi equivalent of that space station orbiting Mars are naturally going to be larger, a LOT larger. It is even possible that they may have orbital ring stations surrounding entire planets, complete with space elevators to move cargo and people o and from the surface.
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Arioch
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Joined: Fri Mar 04, 2011 9:19 pm Posts: 3036 Location: San Jose, CA
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Dahak
Joined: Wed May 20, 2015 5:09 pm Posts: 31
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so a pre-Pulse Cannon Cruiser's Guns, Battleship Shields, CVL's fighters and twice those three ships combined point defense. At 3g the entire Human fleet might catch it but they couldn't I think outfight it unless they got lucky and came out of jump inside railgun range.
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Mon May 21, 2018 5:13 am |
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entity2636
Joined: Fri Jan 12, 2018 4:53 am Posts: 326
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OK, 3G acceleration might not be much by Loroi standards, but still, one has to admit that the idea of a space station running away from an attacking fleet (and possibly even outrunning it) is kind of funny. Kind of like your birthday cake deciding "Nope, not want to be eaten" and legging it. Less funny would be for a space station to come after a fleeing vessel and catching it 
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orion1836
Joined: Mon Feb 06, 2017 4:38 pm Posts: 307
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That... may or may not have happened in a sci-fi MUD game I played forever and a day ago. In that instance, a very powerful station (that was NOT meant to be mobile) was towed through jump and released to drift right through an enemy fleet. The result? Dreadnought-level weapons auto-firing in close range against heavy cruiser shields and hulls. The fleet nope-ed out of there before they were shredded. Also darkly funny for the Outsider universe would be a station commander, with no options left, ordering ramming speed against an immobilized ship.
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Mon May 21, 2018 9:45 am |
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Krulle
Joined: Wed May 20, 2015 2:14 am Posts: 846
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It's been a while since a girl looked at me like that. I wonder if Alex' heart is melting too... I also wonder what's going through her thoughts. And am looking forward to next Monday.
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CF2
Joined: Tue Apr 04, 2017 10:02 am Posts: 172 Location: On your PC as a background program.
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Perhaps something along the lines of: I can only be punished for flirting with the human if we survive this mess. YOLO!
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Fri Jun 01, 2018 12:59 am |
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boldilocks
Joined: Fri Jun 02, 2017 8:27 am Posts: 435
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Is direct skin contact with an alien considered an aggressive action among loroi, and thus bad form/bad etiquette?
In b4 touching humans is like crack to loroi, and their pilot is currently on a massive bender.
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Fri Jun 01, 2018 1:04 am |
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Arent
Joined: Sat Jan 24, 2015 1:42 pm Posts: 130
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I still wonder a bit about the special "mind shield" of Humans. Maybe the Loroi/Alex will soon discover that there are other implications. Maybe certain Loroi can sense his thoughts or emotions. After all, it was Fireblade, not Beryl who tried that. Or Beryl is just telling him that they will protect him, even at the cost of their lifes. Which Alex might feel uncomfortable about.
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Fri Jun 01, 2018 2:15 am |
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Sweforce
Joined: Thu Mar 12, 2015 5:00 pm Posts: 457
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Alex was hardly "in the mood" to give up information to Fireblade and her aides. Maybe there is a way to bring down the human lotai. If that way is well, I doubt that, since that would rapidly make tto comic NSFW... 
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Fri Jun 01, 2018 2:30 am |
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Krulle
Joined: Wed May 20, 2015 2:14 am Posts: 846
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you guys messed up the quotes....
And indeed, that would lead us to uncharted territory. And while I'm a firm believer of rule #34 (not necessarily a fan of it), this is neither the time nor the place.
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boldilocks
Joined: Fri Jun 02, 2017 8:27 am Posts: 435
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Ah, but is it the time and space?
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Fri Jun 01, 2018 3:12 am |
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Hālian
Joined: Thu Sep 29, 2011 9:28 pm Posts: 718 Location: Central Florida
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boldilocks
Joined: Fri Jun 02, 2017 8:27 am Posts: 435
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sunphoenix
Joined: Mon Mar 21, 2011 11:46 am Posts: 1085 Location: Indianapolis, IN
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Aheh...yeah... mine is to! I think if Loroi spend much time around humans... they will learn we are not that hard to 'read'... nor impossible to "encourage" to yield up our secrets...with the right motivation! Yeah... long time since I've seen that kind of look in a young girl's eyes too... nothing else in existence like it... like the sun is shining on you... Personally!
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entity2636
Joined: Fri Jan 12, 2018 4:53 am Posts: 326
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I wouldn't be surprised if Arioch is either trolling us, or her expression is taken far out of context and in reality means something completely different than we (the audience) want to see/believe.
Still, yeah, those lovely lovely eyes....
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