It's that time again: Rise of Skywalker

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Re: It's that time again: Rise of Skywalker

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Q: How did the CIS fleet sneak in undetected?
A: Darth Sidious gave the CIS the location of a secret hyperspace lane through the galactic core unknown to The Republic. This allowed the CIS fleet to enter orbit directly from hyperspace, destroying hundreds of Venator Class star destroyers before they were able to raise shields & jamming all communications to prevent reinforcement (which Republic forces eventually overcame).
That...still makes no sense. How do millions of cartographers miss a hyperspace lane that leads directly into orbit of the capital planet of the galaxy?
How can Yoda clap together drop ships, but needs help pushing off a few dozen droids?
Why is he riding a "horse" instead of taking a hovercar like a normal person?
Why does Windu have to kenshiro several droids instead of just using his lightsaber?

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If you're expecting logic or internal consistency, this isn't the franchise you're looking for.

I cringe every time I hear Clone Wars or Rebels held up as something notably good. It all has the same "this feels like it was written for little kids" feel. (Not in terms of subject matter, but in terms of... quality.)

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The first Clone Wars cartoon came out between Attack of the Clones and Revenge of the Sith. This battle came out as a lead up to Revenge of the Sith coming out. (This cartoon did a lot of over the top things since it was in the spirit of Samurai Jack)

For the hyperspace route, it was one that went through the center of the Galaxy (near the black hole(s) in that region), known as the Deep Core. It is still only lightly explored even if the "Core Worlds" surround it. Mostly because all the gravity from the black hole and tightly packed stars in the core of the galaxy makes hyperspace travel dangerous. During the Clone Wars a route was discovered through the Deep Core that could get from one side of the Core Worlds to the other, but the data was encrypted, with the Republic Military having one half and the Jedi the other half. Neither knew the route because they didn't trust each other with the information (and it didn't benefit the Republic to know it since it didn't lead to any Separatist Worlds). However, there is one person would could get both halves privately without setting off any alarms with either side....the Chancellor of the Republic....Palpatine. Count Dooku was given the information and told to wait until called for to use it against the Republic.

Palpatine didn't have Dooku use the route until the Jedi started to get a little too close to finding out who Darth Sidious was. It was used as a distraction to throw the Jedi off his trail, while also instilling fear into the Core Worlds that they could be next (building support for Palpatine's New Order, since the Jedi didn't seem able to stop this from happening). He spent a good three years turning the population of the Republic against the Jedi by basically making them the scapegoats for the war. It was only in the years that followed the war that the evils of the Empire started to become visible (and to some worlds it took until the end of the Civil War to see those evils).

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I finally broke down and saw Rise of Skywalker yesterday. I bought a ticket for Frozen then switched seats. I should feel bad about that but I figured it was the same ticket price (Matinee) and the theater actually gets to keep more money from the Frozen ticket because it's been out longer.

The movie was everything I expected it to be from the spoilers I had seen. The frantic pace in order to cover plot holes big enough to drive a Star Destroyer through (that was probably "conjured" by the Emperor). Plot points created then forgotten/ignored. The bad guys defeated once again by a single point of failure exploited by the heroes.

The only thing that could have saved it was having the final shot of Rey have the emperor's yellow eyes, then she starts laughing.

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Arioch wrote:If you're expecting logic or internal consistency, this isn't the franchise you're looking for.

I cringe every time I hear Clone Wars or Rebels held up as something notably good. It all has the same "this feels like it was written for little kids" feel. (Not in terms of subject matter, but in terms of... quality.)
I enjoyed Darth Maul in both, however.

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Turrosh Mak wrote:I finally broke down and saw Rise of Skywalker yesterday. I bought a ticket for Frozen then switched seats. I should feel bad about that but I figured it was the same ticket price (Matinee) and the theater actually gets to keep more money from the Frozen ticket because it's been out longer.

The movie was everything I expected it to be from the spoilers I had seen. The frantic pace in order to cover plot holes big enough to drive a Star Destroyer through (that was probably "conjured" by the Emperor). Plot points created then forgotten/ignored. The bad guys defeated once again by a single point of failure exploited by the heroes.

The only thing that could have saved it was having the final shot of Rey have the emperor's yellow eyes, then she starts laughing.
I admire your dedication in supporting both the theater and Disney while screwing the Star Wars division in particular.

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Re: It's that time again: Rise of Skywalker

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JJ did his best with Disney on his back and having to accept the worst film this side of Solo is canon. Frankly I saw it for free online and didn't feel like I wasted my life watching this film. The Mandalorian is better than the main films.

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Re: It's that time again: Rise of Skywalker

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Zorg56 wrote:Very bad "movie", dont watch it.
They failed everything including edit.
I pirated the film and it was better than Solo and The Last Jedi if I paid for it I'd probably say the same thing you said.

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Re: It's that time again: Rise of Skywalker

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Arioch wrote:I saw Rise of Skywalker this morning with my sister.

I didn't expect it to be good... I frankly didn't think it could be good, but I didn't imagine that it could be this bad.

It's worse than Last Jedi. It's worse than any of the prequels.

It's like someone glued the bleeding chunks of a dozen good star wars movies, from almost as many different universes, together in a attempt to recreate Return of the Jedi.

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