Miscellaneous Loroi question-and-answer thread

[gaerzi]

This global A.I. also sends out smaller versions of itself for more remote interactions . . .

One could imagine they'd go try to sow trouble for the other civilizations so as to examine how they react to crises. They'd complain about substandard precision in intelligence reports and they'd encourage paranoia and distrust.

[Bamax]

I think I know the reason the Loroi use what are more or less phasers.... because it's cool.

Imagine Star Trek but with guns instead? A lot more death that's for sure.

But when it comes right down ti it, guns can be cheaper and just as deadly as 'phasers'.... except for when the phaser goes to higher settings.

Which I presume why Loroi need them. I am going to presume that bullets won't always work against Umiak because of hard shells and armor.... maybe?

[Arioch]

One reason why you might want your Space Marines to use beam weapons rather than slugthrowers aboard starships is that the destructive force of a beam weapon can be adjusted up and down to meet the needs of the moment. Which is probably important when the surroundings you're fighting in are worth more than you are.

"Some things around here don't react well to bullets."

[Bamax]

One reason why you might want your Space Marines to use beam weapons rather than slugthrowers aboard starships is that the destructive force of a beam weapon can be adjusted up and down to meet the needs of the moment. Which is probably important when the surroundings you're fighting in are worth more than you are.

"Some things around here don't react well to bullets."

A luxury of high tech civvies I guess. Since bulkheads could be armored nonetheless.... even if with padded bullet absorbent soft pads or something. I realize uou cannot pad everything though.

It would only make spacehips heavier and less maneuverable, so there is that.


Nonetheless I think the Loroi rely solely on PB beam weapons even planetside.

Which I suppose is again for the utility of options (stun, kill, utterly explode etc).

With a normal gun you cannot do that.

So I suppose for both Star Trek and Outsider a PB gun can be as lethal as a gun or RPG or simply stun.... depending on the setting.

[Arioch]

Nonetheless I think the Loroi rely solely on PB beam weapons even planetside.

Well, you're wrong.

[boldilocks]

Nonetheless I think the Loroi rely solely on PB beam weapons even planetside.

Well, you're wrong.

These bugs are about to be shell-shocked!

[Bamax]

Nonetheless I think the Loroi rely solely on PB beam weapons even planetside.

Well, you're wrong.

I meant for handheld weapons. You are saying they are familiar with and use firearms like we do?

That's.... an unexpected first.... since it is a trope that nigh advanced races do not bother with modern firearms because 'phasers' are more powerful.

Yet what firearms lack in power they make up for with cheap mass production and utility.

[Keklas Rekobah]

AFAIK, There’s PB, SP, and DE.

PB = Particle Beam — Neutrons, protons, electrons, plasma.

SP = Solid Projectile — Buckshot, bullets, flechettes, grenades.

DE = Directed Energy — Lasers, masers, sonics, neural.

Some SiFi blasters are pulsed lasers (DE), and some are encapsulated (SP) charges.

[Arioch]

Nonetheless I think the Loroi rely solely on PB beam weapons even planetside.

Well, you're wrong.

I meant for handheld weapons. You are saying they are familiar with and use firearms like we do?

I'm saying Loroi ground troops use a wide variety of small arms, and some of them are projectile weapons.

When we're talking about space marines, we have to keep in mind that it's a specialist role, the numbers of combatants are comparatively small, and the environments in which the fighting takes place are more expensive than the troops doing the fighting. So saving a few hundred dollars on cheaper firearms really doesn't buy you much.

Ground combat is different. Collateral damage is not always as large a concern, and the scale of combat is much larger.

[avatar576]

One reason why you might want your Space Marines to use beam weapons rather than slugthrowers aboard starships is that the destructive force of a beam weapon can be adjusted up and down to meet the needs of the moment. Which is probably important when the surroundings you're fighting in are worth more than you are.

"Some things around here don't react well to bullets."

A luxury of high tech civvies I guess. Since bulkheads could be armored nonetheless.... even if with padded bullet absorbent soft pads or something. I realize uou cannot pad everything though.

It would only make spacehips heavier and less maneuverable, so there is that.


Nonetheless I think the Loroi rely solely on PB beam weapons even planetside.

Which I suppose is again for the utility of options (stun, kill, utterly explode etc).

With a normal gun you cannot do that.

So I suppose for both Star Trek and Outsider a PB gun can be as lethal as a gun or RPG or simply stun.... depending on the setting.

There is also the issue of the effect on soft or sensitive tissue (namely, the eardrums) of pressure waves created by rapidly expanding gases in relatively confined spaces, such as spaceship corridors. Hollywood tends to ignore this entirely. How many movies have we seen where gunfights take place in tight quarters and somehow, they're all able to hear just fine right after?
It's true that the Loroi don't need to speak to each other, but still, loss of hearing (even if only temporary) plus blood leaking out of your ears would have a large negative impact on your combat effectiveness. They're wearing space suits now, but that might not always be the case.

[Quickdraw101]

Not a question about the Loroi, but how friendly or cheerful is the average Barsam or Neridi? From the concept art and comic panels we've seen of them, they seem pretty chipper, except for that one Neridi who looked like he was hissing at someone. Also, from what I read about the Delrias, is it safe to assume they are extremely aggressive towards everyone who isn't their own kind?

[Arioch]

Not a question about the Loroi, but how friendly or cheerful is the average Barsam or Neridi? From the concept art and comic panels we've seen of them, they seem pretty chipper, except for that one Neridi who looked like he was hissing at someone. Also, from what I read about the Delrias, is it safe to assume they are extremely aggressive towards everyone who isn't their own kind?

Neridi are mostly very friendly. Their society is based on cooperation (everbody has sex with everybody else to maintain good relations).

Barsam are usually polite and friendly (hostility and violence are not of "the Path"), but "cheerful" would not really describe them. They have no sense of humor and are famously ill-tempered.

Delrias are aggressive toward everyone, especially their own kind.

Keeping in mind that there is variability in individual temperament (and even by subculture).

[Keklas Rekobah]

@ARIOCH: What effects, if any, do Loroi experience during hyperspace jump?  Are their experiences different from those of other species?  Are they different depending on which species' jump technology is being used?

[Arioch]

@ARIOCH: What effects, if any, do Loroi experience during hyperspace jump?  Are their experiences different from those of other species?  Are they different depending on which species' jump technology is being used?

Severity of jump sickness varies with the individual (as does motion sickness among humans), but also among different species. Loroi and other Soia-Liron species tend to experience lesser effects than average; Umiak experience more severe effects than average. Humans are somewhere in between. As you might expect, TCA graduates experience less severe effects than the average for humans.

Jump sickness effects can include: nausea, vertigo, hallucination, headache or other pain, euphoria, impairment of motor or cognitive function, unconsciousness, neurosis, or psychosis. These effects may be momentary or they may persist for a length of time afterward.

Jump sickness is a side effect of the transit into and out of hyperspace; all of the main combatants use the same methods to do this, so what might differ would be secondary effects, such as more severe vibration during the charging sequence or requiring a longer time to charge up.

[Quickdraw101]

Not a question about the Loroi, but how friendly or cheerful is the average Barsam or Neridi? From the concept art and comic panels we've seen of them, they seem pretty chipper, except for that one Neridi who looked like he was hissing at someone. Also, from what I read about the Delrias, is it safe to assume they are extremely aggressive towards everyone who isn't their own kind?

Neridi are mostly very friendly. Their society is based on cooperation (everbody has sex with everybody else to maintain good relations).

Barsam are usually polite and friendly (hostility and violence are not of "the Path"), but "cheerful" would not really describe them. They have no sense of humor and are famously ill-tempered.

Delrias are aggressive toward everyone, especially their own kind.

Keeping in mind that there is variability in individual temperament (and even by subculture).

So what your saying is that long term living on a Neridi world, and making friends with the locals isn't a good idea. It's also pointless to joke with a Barsam or irritate one, lest you want to get thrown.

[GeoModder]

Delrias are aggressive toward everyone, especially their own kind.

Is it the same with the Morat?

[Arioch]

Delrias are aggressive toward everyone, especially their own kind.

Is it the same with the Morat?

No, the hierarchies in Morat society are based much less on physical intimidation.

[Keklas Rekobah]

Severity of jump sickness varies with the individual (as does motion sickness among humans), but also among different species. Loroi and other Soia-Liron species tend to experience lesser effects than average; Umiak experience more severe effects than average. Humans are somewhere in between. As you might expect, TCA graduates experience less severe effects than the average for humans.

Jump sickness effects can include: nausea, vertigo, hallucination, headache or other pain, euphoria, impairment of motor or cognitive function, unconsciousness, neurosis, or psychosis. These effects may be momentary or they may persist for a length of time afterward.

Jump sickness is a side effect of the transit into and out of hyperspace; all of the main combatants use the same methods to do this, so what might differ would be secondary effects, such as more severe vibration during the charging sequence or requiring a longer time to charge up.

Summary: Primary effects are related to hyperspace itself, while secondary effects are related to the means to get there and the species involved.

[Quickdraw101]

Would most Loroi, military or civilian, care to have any type of pet? Since the only known ones we have in The Union are basically parasitic birds who'll lay eggs in you if they escape their cage, would a common house pet, or just a suitable Earth creature in general, be appealing to them?

[GeoModder]

I can imagine Perrein Loroi adoring their dogo's.