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Doesn't look good. Even if the bug gets shot on the next page, the servo is already set to crunch mode.

Well at least he can be a distraction.

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CrimsonFALKE wrote:
Mon Nov 04, 2024 10:55 am
Good to see some people get Alex isn't an infantryman hell that bugger doesn't look like it has a weak point not to mention that head likely isn't holding its brain. Where would that things weak spot be it is functioning very well for missing a limb which usually means no more fighting for us humans.
Yeah the fact that he hit an enemy at all with his first shot in real combat is doing pretty damn good. Lot of people panic jerk their trigger squeeze and shoot way too high.

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Overkill Engine wrote:
Tue Nov 05, 2024 5:44 am
CrimsonFALKE wrote:
Mon Nov 04, 2024 10:55 am
Good to see some people get Alex isn't an infantryman hell that bugger doesn't look like it has a weak point not to mention that head likely isn't holding its brain. Where would that things weak spot be it is functioning very well for missing a limb which usually means no more fighting for us humans.
Yeah the fact that he hit an enemy at all with his first shot in real combat is doing pretty damn good. Lot of people panic jerk their trigger squeeze and shoot way too high.
Well… he did do some practice shooting on Mars. With a long distance rifle no less.

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Overkill Engine wrote:
Tue Nov 05, 2024 5:44 am
CrimsonFALKE wrote:
Mon Nov 04, 2024 10:55 am
Good to see some people get Alex isn't an infantryman hell that bugger doesn't look like it has a weak point not to mention that head likely isn't holding its brain. Where would that things weak spot be it is functioning very well for missing a limb which usually means no more fighting for us humans.
Yeah the fact that he hit an enemy at all with his first shot in real combat is doing pretty damn good. Lot of people panic jerk their trigger squeeze and shoot way too high.
Combat and range shooting are two different things he's doing good for a first timer specifically against that hard trooper. Still these hardtroops are so different I can't imagine being able to shoot a weak spot. It looks a target that would need saturation fire.

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QuakeIV wrote:
Mon Nov 04, 2024 3:02 am
RedDwarfIV wrote:
Sun Nov 03, 2024 11:08 pm
Overkill Engine wrote:
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Alex actually could have been aiming for the head but the hardtrooper just had greater horizontal velocity than Alex could track. A bit more to the right and his shot would have been grazing its head if not plinking an eye sensor.
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He's never been in an actual infantry battle before. He'd have to recognise a weak point, aim for it, and take the shot all while an enemy he only just encountered is moving toward him.

I flinch and panic fire in that situation playing video games, never mind a real live combat situation.
I agree with this, IMO you can have super honed reflexes but thats not his job or seemingly his interest either. When they gave him the gun his first thought was 'oh yeah i remember this from academy' which more than addresses that point.
I'm also assuming he needs to know where to hit. Alot of basic training from what I understand is aim for center of mass as that is where a lot of the fun bits that keeps us alive (lungs, heart, a chunk of the spine) is. He may have gone to that as well.

That or there may not be many spots he could hit that doesn't revolve the laser equivalent of an elephant gun to punch through. To use a knight from late medieval to early Renascence era (full plate armor), there was not a lot of areas one could get to them without specialized weapons in dealing with them. The few that were exploitable were areas like joints where there wasn't a lot of armor so the warrior could actually move, or to gang up on them, and stab them with a spike, or a long dagger to a now open visor. Something similar might be happening here.

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SaintofM wrote:
Wed Nov 06, 2024 10:14 am
QuakeIV wrote:
Mon Nov 04, 2024 3:02 am
RedDwarfIV wrote:
Sun Nov 03, 2024 11:08 pm

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He's never been in an actual infantry battle before. He'd have to recognise a weak point, aim for it, and take the shot all while an enemy he only just encountered is moving toward him.

I flinch and panic fire in that situation playing video games, never mind a real live combat situation.
I agree with this, IMO you can have super honed reflexes but thats not his job or seemingly his interest either. When they gave him the gun his first thought was 'oh yeah i remember this from academy' which more than addresses that point.
I'm also assuming he needs to know where to hit. Alot of basic training from what I understand is aim for center of mass as that is where a lot of the fun bits that keeps us alive (lungs, heart, a chunk of the spine) is. He may have gone to that as well.

That or there may not be many spots he could hit that doesn't revolve the laser equivalent of an elephant gun to punch through. To use a knight from late medieval to early Renascence era (full plate armor), there was not a lot of areas one could get to them without specialized weapons in dealing with them. The few that were exploitable were areas like joints where there wasn't a lot of armor so the warrior could actually move, or to gang up on them, and stab them with a spike, or a long dagger to a now open visor. Something similar might be happening here.
You have a good point- where are the vital organs on that thing?

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CrimsonFALKE wrote:
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You have a good point- where are the vital organs on that thing?
Inside the armored body obviously. Barring access, I'd try severing the semi-flexible 'neck', or as many of the 'eyes' as quickly as possible, and hoping there isn't a sort of infrared or motion detector on the main body that can't be easily spotted.
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Maybe its me on a 40k fix, so thinking tyranids adapting to defeat their food.

Could the Shells have modified their armor to be resilient to the heat and or deflective against most beam weapons as A. when they do go in combat that is what they are facing and B. As much as they are expendable, they are not storm troopers? I am assuming Berel's riffle is more powerful than Alex's pistol. At which point, I am assuming Fireblade is the equivalent of the heavy weapons specialist on a team for this purpose.

Although this would a good time to ohmage how to kill a Hunter in Halo: Combat Evolve.

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Given that the loroi are the main combatants that the Umiak seem to be fighting in this war (which has lasted several decades already; plenty of time to adapt military equipment), I'd definitely assume that the hardtroops are specifically designed to fight *loroi*. Which means resistant to energy weapons, and with few exposed (or obvious) external weakpoints to target. After all, the Hierarchy manufactures hardtroops for a reason, and that reason is fighting loroi equipped with lasers/blasters. Wouldn't make much sense for the hardtroops to *not* be designed to be as beam-resistant as practical.
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GeoModder wrote:
Fri Nov 08, 2024 7:14 am
CrimsonFALKE wrote:
Thu Nov 07, 2024 4:56 pm
You have a good point- where are the vital organs on that thing?
Inside the armored body obviously. Barring access, I'd try severing the semi-flexible 'neck', or as many of the 'eyes' as quickly as possible, and hoping there isn't a sort of infrared or motion detector on the main body that can't be easily spotted.
I would bet there are motion detectors on the body the umaki are probably going to set that thick shell with secondary sensors

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CrimsonFALKE wrote:
Sat Nov 09, 2024 10:08 pm
GeoModder wrote:
Fri Nov 08, 2024 7:14 am
CrimsonFALKE wrote:
Thu Nov 07, 2024 4:56 pm
You have a good point- where are the vital organs on that thing?
Inside the armored body obviously. Barring access, I'd try severing the semi-flexible 'neck', or as many of the 'eyes' as quickly as possible, and hoping there isn't a sort of infrared or motion detector on the main body that can't be easily spotted.
I would bet there are motion detectors on the body the umaki are probably going to set that thick shell with secondary sensors
I would also wonder how decentralized the nervous system is. You know how some bugs can keep moving around even after they get smashed of their head bitten off? I can see the Umiak doing something similar (I am aware they are closer to mammals but they have a bug look).

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SaintofM wrote:
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I would also wonder how decentralized the nervous system is. You know how some bugs can keep moving around even after they get smashed of their head bitten off? I can see the Umiak doing something similar (I am aware they are closer to mammals but they have a bug look).
Oh that is even worse

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So... I hate to ask... but any news on progress for page 227? Only one completed page in 2024... not an auspicious sign.
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It was not an auspicious year.

The new page will be up when it's up. I'm sorry for the delay.

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Arioch wrote:
Sun Jan 26, 2025 4:20 am
It was not an auspicious year.

The new page will be up when it's up. I'm sorry for the delay.
Ahhhh! Nice to know! Thanks for replying...we will continue to wait patiently!

...no it was not an Auspicious year at all.
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sunphoenix wrote:
Sun Jan 26, 2025 10:09 am
Arioch wrote:
Sun Jan 26, 2025 4:20 am
It was not an auspicious year.

The new page will be up when it's up. I'm sorry for the delay.
Ahhhh! Nice to know! Thanks for replying...we will continue to wait patiently!

...no its was not an Auspicious year at all.
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