Miscellaneous Loroi question-and-answer thread

[Hālian]

I think that's her face.

[Arioch]

You missed her left shoulder in panel 1 Page 60.

Okay, thanks. There's no need to report "missing" characters in panels; I know they're not there. (Assume they're together with Guard #2 on a noillir break.)

I figured that a shipboard Sorimi would be kind of a command-staff gofer, placed near to the command staff to learn from experience and proximity, given relatively few responsibilities, but potentially on the fast track to Torrai Torret.

Would a Tenoin Mallas who jumps to Torrai be a Torrai Mallas, then? Or would they be promoted to Torrai Torret in the process?

An officer who wants to an admiral who commands forces in the field needs to get combat experience in Soroin O4-O5 positions. A Mallas must normally be promoted to Torret before she can be considered for Torrai induction. Sorimi is a position for a Loroi who has no intention of becoming a field commander.

But a Mizol wouldn't be moving to a combat command post, unless she makes it all the way to Azerein like Greywind did?

That's correct. (And this is one of the reasons why Greywind's selection as Azerein was controversial.)

[ShadowDragon8685]

Okay, thanks. There's no need to report "missing" characters in panels; I know they're not there. (Assume they're together with Guard #2 on a noillir break.)

Hahah. Okay. Sorry, I wasn't trying to be a pest - it was just that once the eye was drawn to one oddity, the others became that which could not be unseen. I'll can it.

I figured that a shipboard Sorimi would be kind of a command-staff gofer, placed near to the command staff to learn from experience and proximity, given relatively few responsibilities, but potentially on the fast track to Torrai Torret.

Would a Tenoin Mallas who jumps to Torrai be a Torrai Mallas, then? Or would they be promoted to Torrai Torret in the process?

An officer who wants to an admiral who commands forces in the field needs to get combat experience in Soroin O4-O5 positions. A Mallas must normally be promoted to Torret before she can be considered for Torrai induction. Sorimi is a position for a Loroi who has no intention of becoming a field commander.

Okay, but...
I think I may be confused, then. Is Tenoin Torret O6 missing from the list, then? Or would a Tenoin Mallas O5 need to become a Soroin Torret O6 before she can become a Torrai Torret?

Can you jump Castes sideways; say, a nerdy Soroin shifting to Gallen, or a particularly bloodthirsty Mizol or Listel jumping to a Soroin/Tenoin combat post, even maybe taking an overall demotion in the process, in the hopes of advancing to a combat command Torrai position?

Ex. if Tempo felt a burning need to personally be giving the orders to crush shells, could she ask to be made a Soroin, even at a much lower rank equivalent, in the hopes of securing advancement through the combat ranks?

But a Mizol wouldn't be moving to a combat command post, unless she makes it all the way to Azerein like Greywind did?

That's correct. (And this is one of the reasons why Greywind's selection as Azerein was controversial.)

Ahhhh. That makes... Lots of sense, actually.
Man, this really is Byzantine. Loroi org charts must be things of legend; like the Tarrasque.

[Arioch]

Or would a Tenoin Mallas O5 need to become a Soroin Torret O6 before she can become a Torrai Torret?

That's correct, but it's unusual. A Tenoin who rose higher than Mallas would normally be taken off the line and placed in a training or administrative position.

Can you jump Castes sideways; say, a nerdy Soroin shifting to Gallen, or a particularly bloodthirsty Mizol or Listel jumping to a Soroin/Tenoin combat post, even maybe taking an overall demotion in the process, in the hopes of advancing to a combat command Torrai position?

It's possible, but it usually requires special circumstances. Example: Ashrain started as a Teidar, but switched to Soroin after she displayed the appropriate proficiencies (and her great-aunt became Emperor).

[Absalom]

Out of curiosity, is it more likely for a Mizol to become a Teidar (and vis-versa) than a Soroin or Tenoin, since Tediar are also outside of the normal promotion track?

[ShadowDragon8685]

Out of curiosity, is it more likely for a Mizol to become a Teidar (and vis-versa) than a Soroin or Tenoin, since Tediar are also outside of the normal promotion track?

I think Teidar is a specialist Caste dependent upon having the psychokinetic ability to be Unsheathed. I would imagine that youths with the telekinetic prowess to be Unsheathed are sent to the Teidar Academy on Deinar regardless of whether they have the eidetic memory to be a Listel or the diplomatic temperament to be a Mizol, if only because Unsheathed talents are probably rarer than either other trait, but also because an untrained psychokinetic is a danger to themselves and others.

Or did you mean Mizol jumping to Listel and vice-versa?

[Arioch]

Out of curiosity, is it more likely for a Mizol to become a Teidar (and vis-versa) than a Soroin or Tenoin, since Tediar are also outside of the normal promotion track?

Not as much as you might think; they're both psi warfare castes, but they have different requirements and very different methods and training. Telepathy is more important for Mizol than telekinesis, and vice-versa, and Teidar work mainly with amplifiers, while Mizol work mainly without.

[Absalom]

Out of curiosity, is it more likely for a Mizol to become a Teidar (and vis-versa) than a Soroin or Tenoin, since Tediar are also outside of the normal promotion track?

I think Teidar is a specialist Caste dependent upon having the psychokinetic ability to be Unsheathed. I would imagine that youths with the telekinetic prowess to be Unsheathed are sent to the Teidar Academy on Deinar regardless of whether they have the eidetic memory to be a Listel or the diplomatic temperament to be a Mizol, if only because Unsheathed talents are probably rarer than either other trait, but also because an untrained psychokinetic is a danger to themselves and others.

Or did you mean Mizol jumping to Listel and vice-versa?

To the best of my memory, Mizol also have telekinetic abilities, they were apparently the Perrein equivalent of Teidar, though Arioch's now clarified.

[ShadowDragon8685]

Out of curiosity, is it more likely for a Mizol to become a Teidar (and vis-versa) than a Soroin or Tenoin, since Tediar are also outside of the normal promotion track?

I think Teidar is a specialist Caste dependent upon having the psychokinetic ability to be Unsheathed. I would imagine that youths with the telekinetic prowess to be Unsheathed are sent to the Teidar Academy on Deinar regardless of whether they have the eidetic memory to be a Listel or the diplomatic temperament to be a Mizol, if only because Unsheathed talents are probably rarer than either other trait, but also because an untrained psychokinetic is a danger to themselves and others.

Or did you mean Mizol jumping to Listel and vice-versa?

To the best of my memory, Mizol also have telekinetic abilities, they were apparently the Perrein equivalent of Teidar, though Arioch's now clarified.

I'm not sure that Mizol must necessarily have telekinetic power the average Loroi lacks, so much as that there is likely to be a correlation in that stronger psi in general probably means at least a modicum of telekinetic talent... But they're likely to be very weak with it; Tempo, we know to be telekinetic, but the maximum force she can exert is miniscule, under 1kg - but with such fine control that she could rearrange the contents of your desk whilst holding a conversation with you and you wouldn't know it until you looked down.

So don't take your eyes off your desk when she's delivering a report! (So she can rearrange your shelf while you watch your desk with hawklike attention.)

[Hālian]

Obviously, you should load the shelves with heavy books before letting a mizol in.

[ShadowDragon8685]

Obviously, you should load the shelves with heavy books before letting a mizol in.

Before letting Tempo in at least. Just look at those eyes of hers, so red, so sultry, so mischievous. She's the kind of person who clearly takes delight in being your own personal poltergeist.

[sunphoenix]

...all that raven black cascading hair, those bedroom eyes of crimson, and that voice to make the heart skip-beat! Yeah, Tempo's the kind of Beautiful that does brain damage to mortal men, doubt I'd even notice books flying about the room if she turned those eyes on me and smiled!

[ShadowDragon8685]

...all that raven black cascading hair, those bedroom eyes of crimson, and that voice to make the heart skip-beat! Yeah, Tempo's the kind of Beautiful that does brain damage to mortal men, doubt I'd even notice books flying about the room if she turned those eyes on me and smiled!

Um... Tempo's like, kind of a dark brunette, isn't she?

[Hālian]

Doesn't make her any less hot. :9

[ShadowDragon8685]

Doesn't make her any less hot. :9

No, but I'm just saying, I don't think she's a raven.

Actually, do Loroi with black hair even exist? The closest I recall seeing was an earlier concept art of Stillstorm.

[Hālian]

Nedeil Tizel might be, depending on the lighting, but even if she isn't I see no reason why raven loroi can't be.

[ShadowDragon8685]

Nedeil Tizel might be, depending on the lighting, but even if she isn't I see no reason why raven loroi can't be.

Cobalt? I'd say probably a very dark blue color, but it's a little hard to be certain, I'll grant.

[ShadowDragon8685]

Re: Loroi traditional swordmaking.

You said that traditional swordmaking would be steel, and presumably not unrecognizable in form to human traditional swordmaking.

Did the Loroi (of Deinar specifically, if you have written it in such detail,) have any kind of "legendary" blades the way we had (the original) Damascus Steel blades, or legendary swordsmiths such as Gorō Nyūdō Masamune?

[e]Also, completely randomly, just how tough are Loroi ordinary interior bulkheads versus a Loroi utility blade's point? Could a really determined thrust embed one in the wall, or not in a month of sundays?

[e2]Also, also randomly: what kind of effect would a Wave-Loom Device fired at full charge against an atmosphere-bearing planet within 100 Megameters (not milimeters; I imagine that would be highly unsafe,) have? That seems like it would have enough power to significantly heat the atmosphere of said planet.

[Arioch]

Did the Loroi (of Deinar specifically, if you have written it in such detail,) have any kind of "legendary" blades the way we had (the original) Damascus Steel blades, or legendary swordsmiths such as Gorō Nyūdō Masamune?

Probably.

Also, completely randomly, just how tough are Loroi ordinary interior bulkheads versus a Loroi utility blade's point? Could a really determined thrust embed one in the wall, or not in a month of sundays?

Ship interiors are made out of a lot of different materials, so it would depend. High-tech knives are probably very tough, and so can probably scratch most structural materials unless they are also specifically hardened (like, say in an armored access point or a detention area).

Also, also randomly: what kind of effect would a Wave-Loom Device fired at full charge against an atmosphere-bearing planet within 100 Megameters (not milimeters; I imagine that would be highly unsafe,) have? That seems like it would have enough power to significantly heat the atmosphere of said planet.

Well, the Wave-Loom is powered by accumulating the output of the engines over as long as 8 minutes; that's a lot of energy, roughly equivalent to a 6 megatonne nuclear blast. But of greater concern would be the quantum loom effect that causes the disruption of matter in an area around the target.

It would cause a significant amount of damage.

[ShadowDragon8685]

Did the Loroi (of Deinar specifically, if you have written it in such detail,) have any kind of "legendary" blades the way we had (the original) Damascus Steel blades, or legendary swordsmiths such as Gorō Nyūdō Masamune?

Probably.

Nice.

Also, completely randomly, just how tough are Loroi ordinary interior bulkheads versus a Loroi utility blade's point? Could a really determined thrust embed one in the wall, or not in a month of sundays?

Ship interiors are made out of a lot of different materials, so it would depend. High-tech knives are probably very tough, and so can probably scratch most structural materials unless they are also specifically hardened (like, say in an armored access point or a detention area).

Well, if it can scratch it, then with sufficient force, it can be embedded... In theory, at least! Thanks.

Also, also randomly: what kind of effect would a Wave-Loom Device fired at full charge against an atmosphere-bearing planet within 100 Megameters (not milimeters; I imagine that would be highly unsafe,) have? That seems like it would have enough power to significantly heat the atmosphere of said planet.

Well, the Wave-Loom is powered by accumulating the output of the engines over as long as 8 minutes; that's a lot of energy, roughly equivalent to a 6 megatonne nuclear blast. But of greater concern would be the quantum loom effect that causes the disruption of matter in an area around the target.

It would cause a significant amount of damage.

I was figuring that energy deposit alone would be pretty heavy, but I was wondering what kind of fuzz-factor the quantum loom would cause.

Either way, it's definitely a WMD, and if you have time and fuel but not much in the way of projectiles, or just have a bunch of WLDs, it's a viable option for glassing a planet?