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Let"s consider the position of penguins. If I take said position, move further south to the south pole...then continue along the same south-facing direction, I will, eventually, reach central Asia, will I not? :P

But you stopped going south somewhere along the lines, as you won't be facing south anymore.

On the Curonian Spit, the end-point is the most northern point of the spit, and the German name is "Südpunkt" (southpoint).
Why? Because you can only go south from there.


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This is how I imagine telepathy explanations: A nice image forming in your head, transferring what the speaker wants to tell about her home/adventure/...

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"I ascended to adult-hood by taming the mighty sandworm"


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I created a forums account just to post this. Been a lurker for years and truly enjoy the comic. Thank you for this great piece of work :D.

Is it possible that when Humans sleep the "Mask" we have might fade and the Loroi can "see" his dreams. That's the impression i got from the WIP of young Jardin, it could also be a simple flashback story though too.
Keep up the great work and stay safe/healthy :D.


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Is it possible that when Humans sleep the "Mask" we have might fade and the Loroi can "see" his dreams.

Might require more than just a human at rest given how much time Reed spent outside his door with him sleeping in solitary.

The "Mask" seems more like something that requires focus to lower which is why Alex doing the zen thing let him spot Fireblade.

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Wouldn't sleeping be considered a lower focused state? Was it confirmed that a guard stayed at his door the whole time? They might of just locked it and left him be (unless to bring him food). In fact that would make since, since he is "Alien" to them, they might of quarantined him off and kept others away while they studied his bio flora fauna to make sure he wasn't toxic to them. Or i could be completely off mark. Good food for thought tho.


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Yes, Beryl, I totally want to talk with your pet alien instead of sleeping.


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that is not a "good" look...


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She looks extremely annoyed.


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Fireblade: Either you shut him up, or I'LL shut him up.

Beryl: :shock:

Also, that picture would be the perfect meme face for '110% done with this shit.'


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When the 'nam flashbacks hit you.


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When the 'nam flashbacks hit you.


Indeed. For the first time she actually doesn't look tough, angry or annoyed, but rather sad, depressed and tired. I would imagine she's "talking" about some of the horrors she went through during the Umiak occupation of her homeworld.

I'm waiting for the next page to come out to read what she's saying...


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Onaiom wrote:
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Fireblade wrote:
Yes, Beryl, I totally want to talk with your pet alien instead of sleeping.


I imagine this:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=MO3V9I8hDLw

On a more serious note, she looks a bit... haunted. Wonder if she will actually grace him with her voice?


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Reminds me of Revy's eyes in this scene:


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Reminds me of Revy's eyes in this scene:



Seriously, What episode is that from?!? I thought I'd seen ALL of Black Lagoon... and cannot place where that takes place?!? Is it from an OVA?!? :shock:

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It's from the first season, I think episode 4 or 5.

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Thx! Clearly I need to watch it again... great series! :)

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She looks extremely annoyed.


I think she looks sad :(


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Kelvandos wrote:
I created a forums account just to post this. Been a lurker for years and truly enjoy the comic. Thank you for this great piece of work :D.

Is it possible that when Humans sleep the "Mask" we have might fade and the Loroi can "see" his dreams. That's the impression i got from the WIP of young Jardin, it could also be a simple flashback story though too.
Keep up the great work and stay safe/healthy :D.


Maybe in a full REM state, since that's when the brain is in full data-parsing mode. Even then, it would probably require both a powerful psychic and physical contact.

My guess about the "mask" effect is that it's just a natural outgrowth of humans being utterly psi-blind by adulthood. It would also be of no surprise to me if children, often known to be surprisingly perceptive of things around them, are by Loroi standards modestly psi-active until their brains fully develop and go into psychic lockdown.


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Kelvandos wrote:
I created a forums account just to post this. Been a lurker for years and truly enjoy the comic. Thank you for this great piece of work :D.

Is it possible that when Humans sleep the "Mask" we have might fade and the Loroi can "see" his dreams. That's the impression i got from the WIP of young Jardin, it could also be a simple flashback story though too.
Keep up the great work and stay safe/healthy :D.


Maybe in a full REM state, since that's when the brain is in full data-parsing mode. Even then, it would probably require both a powerful psychic and physical contact.

My guess about the "mask" effect is that it's just a natural outgrowth of humans being utterly psi-blind by adulthood. It would also be of no surprise to me if children, often known to be surprisingly perceptive of things around them, are by Loroi standards modestly psi-active until their brains fully develop and go into psychic lockdown.


If so said lockdown could be learned rather then inevitable. Perhaps pci abilities could be trained rather then be allowed to atrophy.


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I'm just imagining Alex having a nightmare in this couch fort and all the other girls there 'seeing/feeling" it, or something like he gets a bad headache and it affects them, when cuddling (thus close/touching).

As to the psi block and if kids could be more perceptive. Well... that's a good thought, let me run it though the ol' thought engine above and see what pops out.
It begs to ask if the psi block from a early age could also be trained out and make a human more perceptive as an adult.

I'm imagining Buddhist (or someone who is very good at meditating) monks who could be sensitive.


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I don't think it's a block or mask. That might simply be the interpretation of the Loroi, who have never encountered such a psychically "mute" species before. To them, only an active Lotai would have that effect. Kind of like interpreting the manner in which a tree stands as an active vertical motion. The Loroi psy-powers are unknown and mysterious, so why they work sometimes and not others is just as mysterious.

But why would we want to get rid of them? It's a massive advantage if we ever get integrated in the Union for the other (non-Loroi) races to have a species among them capable of defeating the otherwise insurmountable edge the empire has. The only reason the Loroi decided to form the Union after calling the other species' bluff following the Mannadi conflict (instead of violently smashing them outright) is basically a combination of tiredness, laziness, and opportunity for bloodless expansion. Their isolationism and general mild distaste for the affairs of xenos is basically what allowed the other races to still prosper somewhat even under foreign rule. No telling if the Loroi emerge from this conflict mostly unchanged but shaken, or as bloodthirsty, Exterminatus crazed maniacs. And humanity has the bargaining chips in that case.... assuming the Union survives at all (their chances seem veeeeery slim at the moment).


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But why would we want to get rid of them? It's a massive advantage if we ever get integrated in the Union for the other (non-Loroi) races to have a species among them capable of defeating the otherwise insurmountable edge the empire has. The only reason the Loroi decided to form the Union after calling the other species' bluff following the Mannadi conflict (instead of violently smashing them outright) is basically a combination of tiredness, laziness, and opportunity for bloodless expansion. Their isolationism and general mild distaste for the affairs of xenos is basically what allowed the other races to still prosper somewhat even under foreign rule. No telling if the Loroi emerge from this conflict mostly unchanged but shaken, or as bloodthirsty, Exterminatus crazed maniacs. And humanity has the bargaining chips in that case.... assuming the Union survives at all (their chances seem veeeeery slim at the moment).

We might want to get rid of our Lotai so that the Loroi don't find a pretext to squash us while we're still contained to a handful of worlds. At least until we get our bearing in interspecies diplomacy. And unless the Loroi learn how to detect unwilling humans, whatever technique we use can always be not applied.
Assuming the Loroi win, they will have a window of opportunity inbetween breaking the Umiak and ending the war, in which details such as the human species can be handled. Who could stop their fleets with the Umiak no longer a threat?
It depends on how ruthless Loroi leadership is. In the current state, we have to assume the worst. Once things calm down and wartime measures have been lifted, humanity might be able to meaningfully spread to the territory of other species. The Nissek for example should be very interested in human settlers.

And does Fireblade look happy to anybody else? Having one eye also suits her really well.


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And does Fireblade look happy to anybody else? Having one eye also suits her really well.


What comes to mind is "You should see the other woman." :)


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I always knew she was a pirat before all of that.


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Just to have a copy here, so we know what's being referenced.

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