Victor_D wrote:I am familiar with the concept. I've always thought it has a lot to do with a) 'inhuman movement'; b) lack of a 'soul'/conscious life. What you say makes for an interesting argument, but would you do this with a zombie:
You're relatively new on the forums so you may not have had a chance to see the character sheets, but Beryl has Xenophilia (not what you think), so she's going to be much more accepting of Alex then the other Loroi. She might not be showing that level of body language to a slug-creature, but a lot of what's going on with her and Alex is particular to her, not to the Loroi as a whole.
*snip stuff about taste*
Taste is going to be highly variable. What gets one Loroi going may turn another off, same as us. IMO it's not a question of if there will be Loroi interested in screwing humans, it's a question of what percentage.
I don't think so. Humans are too similar to the Loroi physically to be wiped out without emotional/moral consequences. It would definitely be more ethically taxing than wiping out overgrown slugs or other creatures that look and behave nothing like you.
More than just ethical. We probably represent a major part of their history, it may be a part they don't want to be brought up (since they'd rather be created from whole cloth to be more special) but the value of picking us apart genetically and examining our history is too high for them to give up.
Trantor wrote:No purging. The cat is already out of the bag for this one, since the Barsam and the Historians know about us.
This is vitally important to any discussion about genocide. The Barsam know about us and Mozin isn't going to stay quiet. Our existence throws a MAJOR wrench into the mythology that the Loroi have built up around themselves and wiping us out will be confirmation to a lot of their allies that they don't have a response to our existence. That is very dangerous.
And the latter are IMHO the 3rd party in this war, since they have superior firepower to both Loroi and Umiak.
Our appearance comes in handy to them, since they´re fine with this war of attrition between two unpopular parties.
After a pyrrhic Loroi victory they will have given us enough tech to be on par with Loroi, so that they don´t have to fear a Loroi aggression to them.
Betting on us AGAINST hot blue space elves is a bad idea. We'd much rather work with the space elf amazons as their fringe benefits are
far more compelling than the fringe benefits the Historians are likely to offer.
Alienscifi wrote:I still do want I basic answer to the question "Could a human and a Loroi have sex if they wanted to?"
I've never seen any indication that they can't.
sunphoenix wrote: but it would seem to me - at least, you don't get socially sorry for making an newly discovered alien species uneasy with curious questions about their mating habits or empathic enough to be inspired enough to offer QUOTE: "I was concerned for your health that we might have to implement some sort of... accommodation.", unless you find them at least a little attractive and appealing in such a manner.
Or perhaps you are concerned because they're physically similar and you're a massive nerd who over-analyzes everything (since it's your job) and you care because you're nice and you like to be helpful and you desperately want the alien to like you so that you can pick it's brain of everything (and I do mean EVERYTHING) since it's your job to know everything. You know, because you're Beryl. This isn't to say that I don't think she's the most likely to volunteer for "accommodations", just that she doesn't have to want to screw him to be nice to him.
I think, even if only a little, those natural female and male pheromones do have at least some minor effect in - if not mentally at least physically, informing both Loroi and humans of the possibility of a compatible sexual partner.
Pheromones will almost certainly not work, but they are also totally unnecessary. I see people bring up pheromones when this topic comes up fairly often, my answer is this: Does a dildo produce pheromones? How about a Fleshlight? A porn movie? pheromones might
help, but they are in no way critical.
Mayhem wrote:Reviewing pages 19 - 101 Beryl is the only Loroi so far that is clearly (& honestly) friendly to Alex.
Tempo is a spy and a diplomat so we can't determine anything about her real attitude to Alex from her behaviour.
Fireblade and Stillstorm are clearly hostile to and distrustful of Alex.
(Fireblade does have moments of sad reflection/pity it seems but how this pertains to Alex is yet to be seen.)
The rest seem to be divided between hostility and neutrality with a scattering of cautious curiosity.
In addition I don't think that anything Tempo has done would even indicate friendliness in the first place. She's been professional, not friendly.
So it seems reasonable that the typical Loroi female would be unlikely to be interested in becoming intimate with a human male.
Keep in mind that so far we've covered probably about 30-60 minutes of screen times (give or take), most of the Loroi that we've seen looking at him are probably seeing him for the first time and under suspicious circumstances. I think drawing conclusions from that is pre-mature.
Suederwind wrote:Fireblade seems to just do her Job as her facial expression implies to me. Although she looks kind of worried or sad on the las page of the first chapter.
I personally think Fireblade is more interested in him then she's likely to let on for a while.
So, a new question:
How would a Loroi male react to a potential human mating rival?
Loroi male: "What do you mean mating...rival? I'm not familiar with this concept."