...wulfhere wrote:Seems pretty clear that it was Historian weapon.
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I'm not seeing what you are seeing.
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...wulfhere wrote:Seems pretty clear that it was Historian weapon.
The closest thing to a known Historian weapon that we've seen is the Loroi weapons built using Historian assistance. But aside from the fact that we don't have a known Historian weapon to compare against, what specific identifying characteristics can you see in that panel? All I can see is that it was a beam weapon of some kind, and too powerful to be a human one.wulfhere wrote:It was almost certainly the Historians. Take a look at the third panel on Ch. 1 Page 60. Seems pretty clear that it was Historian weapon. Whether it was them or somebody they sold the tech to (that they probably shouldn't have), we'll have to wait and see.
Sorry, I actually didn't see the demarcation between panels 2 and 3, I meant panel 4, where Tempo is clearly looking at the Historian with suspicion, once she hears the color of the beam. The Historian even feels the need to respond, even though he hasn't been accused of anything.Mjolnir wrote:The closest thing to a known Historian weapon that we've seen is the Loroi weapons built using Historian assistance. But aside from the fact that we don't have a known Historian weapon to compare against, what specific identifying characteristics can you see in that panel? All I can see is that it was a beam weapon of some kind, and too powerful to be a human one.wulfhere wrote:It was almost certainly the Historians. Take a look at the third panel on Ch. 1 Page 60. Seems pretty clear that it was Historian weapon. Whether it was them or somebody they sold the tech to (that they probably shouldn't have), we'll have to wait and see.
Could you point out where it is stated that this Focus Array is the Historian primary weapon? For all we know their prefered "weapon" could be their constructs hacking in the comm net of an approaching hostile fleet and activating the self-destruct.fredgiblet wrote:The Pulse Cannon is a plasma weapon that the Loroi use, it is derived from the Plasma Focus Array which is the primary weapon of Historian ships.
old or experimental its the only evidence to support his argument but i think it might be valid since, to best known knowledge there seems too be no other table or information like this and is not actually dis-credited by its creator, more likely an early draft which is why, before this argument/discussion goes further i have 2 questions:Grayhome wrote:But Arioch has stated that this weapons table was experimental in the first place and secondly is too old to be considered accurate...
... and who wants to bet $50 that it was the Historians too who, under the table, gave the Plasma Focus tech to the Umiaks during the 25+ year period between Loroi-Umiak First Contact and the outbreak of the war.Arioch wrote:I posted the table here some years ago. The numbers in the table are outdated, but the listed weapons are still correct.
The Historians use an advanced type of plasma focus that can fire in different offensive or defensive modes. The Historians gave the plans for a simplified version of this weapon to the Loroi, from which the Loroi eventually derived the pulse cannon.
Theory:junk wrote:The terran ship was idling around for a pretty long time. So that's a no.